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#61 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:11 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:Why not just IGNORE?

Wow, what an exotic idea!
hey, I like that, stop feeding the troll??? ok...I have dishes to do anyways...
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#62 Postby WindRunner » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:11 pm

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You build them on land then transport them into place then anchor them to the sea floor.

I already did all that homework you metion above with direct communication with the hurricane center years ago.


Sure you did. We believe you. That's why the HRD has an article talking about how foolish the idea is and why you can't get your math right.

So tell me...what sort of transport vessel did you propose to use to transport a 200'x50'x700' tube to the NHC? And what pray-tell did they say?

And what was their response to the 8 day track question?


And a tube that size would take forever to transport out there, as few ships could fit something of those dimensions. And then installation time for 1 tube, and then repeat this how many times? 1056 I believe was your number? Yep, that's right. (I checked my math.)

Just curious, if we were able to start construction on this right now, without worrying about monetary costs, and all the physics and math worked, would you expect this to be done before the end of the century? I doubt it would . . .
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#63 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:12 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:Why not just IGNORE?

Wow, what an exotic idea!


:uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow:
THIS IS IMPORTANT.
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#64 Postby WindRunner » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:14 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:
CapeVerdeWave wrote:Why not just IGNORE?

Wow, what an exotic idea!


:uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow:
THIS IS IMPORTANT.


Sorry, time didn't allow me to see that before I pointed out more flaws in this plan. However, we are allowing him to try and defend his idea, and if anything I would consider him a potential developer of this solution, and we are just trying to work the kinks out. I don't think he's a troll. :wink:
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#65 Postby Air Force Met » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:14 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:.


How do they secure oil wells in the Gulf?[/quote]

Uhh...wouldn't the more appropriate question be how do you secure an oil well in the middle of the Gulf Stream? After all...there's not a 4 knot current in the Gulf.

And...having dated a girl who's father's company built Offshore rigs...the bases aren't 200+ in diameter and you don't place them in a 4 knot current without millions of pounds of anchor (including the rig). That's gonna be a little more than 10 Billion for 1500 tubes...or is it 1000...or is it 1064...or is it...wait...which number did you give the NHC? Anyway...it's more than 10 Billion.
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#66 Postby cyclonekiller » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:14 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
cyclonekiller wrote:
You build them on land then transport them into place then anchor them to the sea floor.

I already did all that homework you metion above with direct communication with the hurricane center years ago.


Sure you did. We believe you. That's why the HRD has an article talking about how foolish the idea is and why you can't get your math right.

So tell me...what sort of transport vessel did you propose to use to transport a 200'x50'x700' tube to the NHC? And what pray-tell did they say?

And what was their response to the 8 day track question?


That idea is different than mine someone wants to pump it up. They did tell me that forcasting is getting better and soon they will have ten day out forecasts, and they did tell me that my idea would work especially for a storm like Andrew. But the idea could protect any land mass where a strong current exists near the coast.
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#67 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:16 pm

why dont we just start the next ice age already???
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#68 Postby Air Force Met » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:17 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:
CapeVerdeWave wrote:Why not just IGNORE?

Wow, what an exotic idea!


:uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow:
THIS IS IMPORTANT.


Because it's fun. You ever watched a cat play with a mouse? This is kinda like that. :D :lol:
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#69 Postby WindRunner » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:17 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:
Air Force Met wrote:
cyclonekiller wrote:
You build them on land then transport them into place then anchor them to the sea floor.

I already did all that homework you metion above with direct communication with the hurricane center years ago.


Sure you did. We believe you. That's why the HRD has an article talking about how foolish the idea is and why you can't get your math right.

So tell me...what sort of transport vessel did you propose to use to transport a 200'x50'x700' tube to the NHC? And what pray-tell did they say?

And what was their response to the 8 day track question?


That idea is different than mine someone wants to pump it up. They did tell me that forcasting is getting better and soon they will have ten day out forecasts, and they did tell me that my idea would work especially for a storm like Andrew. But the idea could protect any land mass where a strong current exists near the coast.


Did they tell you when these ten-days would start? Because most of the work on your design here would need to be done after those begin and are somewhat accurate.
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#70 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:18 pm

brunota2003 wrote:why dont we just start the next ice age already???


Good idea!

Just kidding...

:lol:

Also, this is VERY IMPORTANT...

CapeVerdeWave wrote:Why not just IGNORE?

Wow, what an exotic idea!
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#71 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:19 pm

Air Force Met wrote:Because it's fun. You ever watched a cat play with a mouse? This is kinda like that. :D :lol:


I guess I was right when I said it was an exotic idea...
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#72 Postby WindRunner » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:20 pm

But you see something exotic would be something from the tropics, and that's what all of us are trying to get rid of by bringing cold water to the surface and cooling all the water down. It's a group effert, I assure you :wink:
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#73 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:21 pm

WindRunner wrote:But you see something exotic would be something from the tropics, and that's what all of us are trying to get rid of by bringing cold water to the surface and cooling all the water down. It's a group effert, I assure you :wink:


Hey any idea that would give me a few feet of snow a month from November into March sounds pretty Exotic! :roll:
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#74 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:22 pm

WindRunner wrote:But you see something exotic would be something from the tropics, and that's what all of us are trying to get rid of by bringing cold water to the surface and cooling all the water down. It's a group effert, I assure you :wink:


OK... sorry! I meant a remote idea.

Sorry for spoiling the party badly...

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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#75 Postby Air Force Met » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:23 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:
That idea is different than mine someone wants to pump it up. They did tell me that forcasting is getting better and soon they will have ten day out forecasts, and they did tell me that my idea would work especially for a storm like Andrew. But the idea could protect any land mass where a strong current exists near the coast.


Gee...they told you forecasting was getting better? Wow. Didn't know that. Who did you speak to? I have contacts within NOAA and the NHC...I will call and verify your contact with them.

So...give me the name of the individual you spoke to so I can speak to them myself and verify what they told you.
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#76 Postby cyclonekiller » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:23 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:why dont we just start the next ice age already???


Good idea!

Just kidding...

:lol:

Also, this is VERY IMPORTANT...

CapeVerdeWave wrote:Why not just IGNORE?

Wow, what an exotic idea!


Where would we be if we ignored Orville Wright or Pascal or Bernoulli.
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#77 Postby Air Force Met » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:25 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:
Where would we be if we ignored Orville Wright or Pascal or Bernoulli.


If Orville had your math and engineering skills he would have died in the crash.
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#78 Postby NCHurricane » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:25 pm

I like peanut butter sandwiches with milk.

Yummy!












:wink:
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#79 Postby WindRunner » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:26 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:
CapeVerdeWave wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:why dont we just start the next ice age already???


Good idea!

Just kidding...

:lol:

Also, this is VERY IMPORTANT...

CapeVerdeWave wrote:Why not just IGNORE?

Wow, what an exotic idea!


Where would we be if we ignored Orville Wright or Pascal or Bernoulli.


I don't think any of us are ignoring any of those three, though I'm not sure where Orville comes in to the equation here.
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#80 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:28 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:Where would we be if we ignored Orville Wright or Pascal or Bernoulli.


I've decided to re-enter the debate without ignoring.

Your idea is well-meant; however, you have not answered to counter the problems of huge cost, effecient management of the pipes, and the potentially bad effects on marine ecosystems and possible backfires of your system if it gets running.
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