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#981 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:15 pm

benny wrote:
KWT wrote:I think its fair to say that for now La Nina is all but compeltely gone and we are back in nuetral condtions.

Also, i can also see the cold anomalies presently over western atlantic to the east of Florida,Georgia and the Carolina's being replaced by warm anomalies by July, and its those cold anomalies that has held down the overall temp anomaly of the atlantic over the past few mnths to the +0.3 range.


I don't think it is fair at all to say that about the pacific. Right now.. the temperature anomalies are not La Nina. But it is a time-averaged phenomenon for sure and this is the time of the year where week to week changes just aren't very stable (ie the predictability barrier). That's why CPC uses a 3 month range. La Nina is also an ocean response to what the atmosphere is doing. The trades have been weak for the past month or so.. but if they kick in again, they will be back to cool conditions. Do we immediately say "La Nina is back"?? The atmosphere sure looks a lot more like La Nina than neutral.. the wind anomalies in the Atlantic are scary: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/h ... 00_30d.gif

Give it a few weeks before we claim La Nina is dead for good. Might not matter much in the long run.. considering 2005 was a neutral year, 2004 was a mild El Nino and the last true La Nina was 1999.. and both those years were more active than 99 :eek:


Those winds are a little scary according to your graphic. Thanks for your synopis.
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#982 Postby benny » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:15 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:4-16-2005

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Gee so that means only 10 hurricanes instead of 15? Yipes.

Oh Dr. James Elsner at FSU has issued his 5 year hurricane forecast (a little OT but I don't really see an open thread).

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http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~jelsner/www/forecasts.html

Multiseason basin-wide forecasts of Atlantic hurricanes.

"2006 Forecast: 2006 9.6 +/- 2.4, 2007 6.5 +/- 3.1, 2008 8.0 +/- 3.1, 2009 7.9 +/- 3.1, 2010 8.4 +/- 3.1. "
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#983 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:17 pm

Gee so that means only 10 hurricanes instead of 15? Yipes.


I was only giving a graphic update from last year to this year.

Edit: Benny I apologize I read that wrong.
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#984 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:41 pm

The gulf is way more warmer than it was last year and that La Nina seems to be coming back, look how cool they are now compared to a few weeks ago.
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#985 Postby skysummit » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:45 pm

4/19 03Z....and it's still 80 degrees in the central GOM. I checked the time for that buoy's report, and it was accurate to 03Z.

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#986 Postby windycity » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:46 am

its scary to see the way things are setting up, jeez, you would think after last year SSTs in the GOMEX wouldnt be near this high. Lets hope the wind pattern this season isnt favorable for storm formation, or else i really think we will see some majors in the gom this year. :cry: :cry:
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#987 Postby skysummit » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:44 am

04/19 12Z SST plots....

All through the night, those 80 degree readings did not drop. I'm sure one of those will rise to 81 today.

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#988 Postby Jim Cantore » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:57 am

I'd imagine Mike Watkins will mention the La Nina tonight on Talkin Tropics.
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#989 Postby windycity » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:38 pm

its amazing how fast things can change, just last week, it looked as though it would be a neutral season, now, who knows. I say the serson will start out with lanina, and buy july, switch over to neg. enso conditions. Just my gut feeling, but either way, i think this season will be ulgy. :roll: :roll:
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#990 Postby txwatcher91 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:42 pm

Look how much the GOM has warmed in a 3 day period.
April 16
April 19
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#991 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:44 pm

Maybe a hurricane could hit southern Florida as of this time...In maybe a weak tropical storm into LA.
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#992 Postby Jim Cantore » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:53 pm

Or maybe we see another Ethel
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#993 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:01 pm

Pretty warm out there in the GOM
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#994 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:01 pm

txwatcher91 wrote:Look how much the GOM has warmed in a 3 day period.
April 16
April 19


Compare that to april 19th of 2005

http://srbdata.jhuapl.edu/d0043/avhrr/g ... _multi.png
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#995 Postby Jim Cantore » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:11 pm

I hate to be the one to ring the bell but it doesnt look good, by the end of the month it will be warm enough to sustain a category 2 storm.
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#996 Postby zoeyann » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:29 pm

Don't know why I keep reading this topic. Ever have that feeling like your heart just feel through your toes.

I know it takes more than SST's for development, but if something does develop or get into the gulf this year it will have lots of fuel.
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#997 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:30 pm

Hurricane Floyd wrote:I hate to be the one to ring the bell but it doesnt look good, by the end of the month it will be warm enough to sustain a category 2 storm.


At first I thought i might be different in scale at the bottom but, I looked again and it says 30C for both. This kind of bothered me as those temps are higher this year at this time than they were last year.

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EDIT: Sorry had the same pic posted... now it's corrected.
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#998 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:32 pm

half of the GOM already can sustain a cat 2:

http://wxmaps.org/pix/hurpot.html
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#999 Postby CHRISTY » Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:05 pm

gulf of mexico in 120 hrs.... :eek:

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carribean sea surface temperature loop..... :eek:

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#1000 Postby windycity » Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:17 pm

Clam bake, anyone? Seriously folks, I smell trouble this year. :cry:
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