TS Alberto Recon Reports

[mtm4319]

Lowest flight-level wind plotted, 17 knots:



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[WindRunner]

Getting closer . . . the heights are still dropping.

[CrazyC83]

Looks like they are moving away from the center.

[mtm4319]

Looks like they are moving away from the center.

They're actually closer now to the center (the new position) than ever. They'll be flying by it (probably NE of it) in the next 10 minutes.

[P.K.]

287
SXXX50 KNHC 101733
AF301 01AAA INVEST HDOB 12 KNHC
1731. 2321N 08638W 00607 5005 092 030 208 208 032 00622 0000000000

So I'm reading this right... does the bolded "032" mean 32 knots?

That is a 10 second maximum average of 32kts with an average of 30kts over the 30 second measuring period.

[P.K.]

SXXX50 KNHC 101813
AF301 01AAA INVEST HDOB 16 KNHC
1806 2156N 08539W 00322 5047 036 017 226 222 018 00284 0000000000
1806. 2155N 08537W 00321 5048 031 017 226 222 018 00283 0000000000
1807 2154N 08536W 00320 5049 035 017 228 224 018 00280 0000000000
1807. 2153N 08535W 00321 5049 030 014 232 222 015 00281 0000000000
1808 2152N 08534W 00322 5049 028 015 228 226 016 00282 0000000000
1808. 2150N 08534W 00321 5049 034 014 230 224 015 00282 0000000000
1809 2149N 08534W 00322 5049 036 013 232 224 014 00282 0000000000
1809. 2147N 08534W 00321 5049 030 011 238 222 011 00281 0000000000
1810 2145N 08534W 00321 5049 028 011 234 226 012 00282 0000000000
1810. 2144N 08534W 00322 5048 032 006 238 222 009 00284 0000000000
1811 2143N 08533W 00321 5048 030 007 238 218 008 00282 0000000000
1811. 2142N 08531W 00321 5048 032 001 238 218 002 00282 0000000000
1812 2141N 08530W 00321 5048 127 000 238 220 001 00282 0000000000
1812. 2140N 08529W 00321 5048 023 001 236 222 002 00282 0000000000
1813 2138N 08529W 00324 5048 034 006 234 224 006 00286 0000000000
1813. 2137N 08530W 00320 5048 039 007 234 224 008 00281 0000000000
1814 2136N 08531W 00321 5048 054 006 234 226 006 00282 0000000000
1814. 2134N 08532W 00288 5049 056 008 238 228 008 00248 0000000000
1815 2133N 08533W 00222 5053 057 007 244 232 008 00178 0000000000
1815. 2132N 08534W 00202 5055 078 006 248 234 007 00157 0000000000

[mtm4319]

FL winds of 1 knot about 13 miles east of the 1PM center advisory position... not bad accuracy.

[WindRunner]

Bad news is that we don't have a vortex yet . . . I'm going to get worried in about 10 minutes if it still isn't out.

[caneman]

worried - why?

[tailgater]

Hope they fly down to 18.5 N-86 W to check out that area.

[BPL710]

How are you guys getting the information from the recon?

[Extremeweatherguy]

I think the center may be further north near that 32kt. wind recording.

[CronkPSU]

worried - why?

cause it starts to cut into his viewing of Argentina/Ivory Coast?

[Stratosphere747]

Could be because there is not true closed circulation..

[P.K.]

worried - why?

cause it starts to cut into his viewing of Argentina/Ivory Coast?

lol, kick off in 32 min.

Still at 200m.

SXXX50 KNHC 101823
AF301 01AAA INVEST HDOB 17 KNHC
1816 2130N 08535W 00201 5055 141 005 250 228 005 00156 0000000000
1816. 2129N 08534W 00203 5055 170 006 250 232 007 00157 0000000000
1817 2129N 08533W 00201 5056 164 006 250 232 007 00155 0000000000
1817. 2131N 08532W 00199 5055 146 006 250 234 007 00153 0000000000
1818 2132N 08532W 00201 5055 102 006 246 234 008 00155 0000000000
1818. 2134N 08532W 00201 5056 093 007 246 232 007 00154 0000000000
1819 2135N 08532W 00201 5056 077 007 246 230 007 00155 0000000000
1819. 2137N 08532W 00202 5056 071 005 246 230 006 00155 0000000000
1820 2139N 08532W 00201 5056 068 007 242 232 007 00154 0000000000
1820. 2140N 08532W 00201 5056 081 007 246 226 007 00154 0000000000
1821 2141N 08531W 00201 5057 069 005 246 228 007 00153 0000000000
1821. 2141N 08530W 00203 5057 024 002 246 226 002 00155 0000000000
1822 2140N 08528W 00201 5057 006 002 246 228 002 00153 0000000000
1822. 2139N 08527W 00201 5057 015 001 246 228 002 00153 0000000000
1823 2138N 08526W 00202 5057 040 002 246 230 003 00154 0000000000
1823. 2137N 08525W 00201 5057 125 001 246 230 002 00153 0000000000
1824 2135N 08524W 00202 5057 140 001 246 232 002 00154 0000000000
1824. 2134N 08523W 00201 5057 206 002 246 232 002 00153 0000000000
1825 2133N 08522W 00201 5057 205 006 248 234 007 00153 0000000000
1825. 2132N 08520W 00201 5057 205 007 250 238 008 00154 0000000000

[thunderchief]

it looks like there might be a center at 21.6N 85.5W, roughly

[jabber]

I doubt they find a vortex.. system looks pretty beat up at this point.

[Extremeweatherguy]

I think the center is reforming near 23N, 87W. Here is a look at the IR loop:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html

This is also where the 32 knot wind was recorded!

[WindRunner]

Could be because there is not true closed circulation..

That's why I would be worried . . . the vortex only comes out if they actually find a circulation center . . . and if their is no vortex = no circulation center = no tropical depression, and I'm pretty sure that this is a little bit more than a gigantic thunderstorm. But yes, ARG/CIV is on hold . . . it had better be out by 3pm regardless of the game. Not having a vortex out even an hour after your scheduled first fix is not a good sign of the system's structure.

[curtadams]

Looks like the center is 21.4N 85.3W That's where the winds change direction. The earlier 1 mph was not accompanied by a direction shift, so it's just a dead spot. Big, complicated center.