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How to read the radar

#1 Postby futureforecaster » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:29 am

Hi folks,

Pardon me if I'm posting this incredibly novice question in the wrong forum. I'm new and I hope you will have a bit of patience. Having endured the November 2005 storm in Evansville, Indiana, I am anxious to learn how to read the radar.

I'm trying to learn how to understand storm movement from the Radar. My knowledge is limited to understanding that GREEN is the part of the image that is relevant to a storm, as it is the activity the radar sees as moving toward the radar. Looking at the Evansville radar, I see RED, GREEN and DARK PURPLE over Evansville, yet there is currently no severe weather. Can anyone help me with the basics of this, please?

BTW: I'm not sure what I should be looking at. There are options to see
    Storm Relative Loop
    Storm Relative Base Loop
    Reflectivity:
    Composite
    Base


I'm thinking the Storm Relative Loop is what shows storm movement and intensity?

Thanks for weathering [pun intended :wink: ] this post.

Thanks,
Terry
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#2 Postby WindRunner » Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:30 am

OK, well I'll try to start you off with some basics by defining each of the products you mentioned. And since all of these can be looped, I'll assume you understand what the loop is for.

Base Velocity - This product can be used to determine wind speeds, as it is a measure of the speed of the precipitation that the radar is seeing over a particular area. Red areas are winds towards the radar site, and green are winds away from the radar site. Your dark purple indicates what is known as "range folding", or RF. That's a kind of complicated problem dealing with how the radar works, so I'll just leave it to the fact that it knows something is moving out there, but it's having a problem measuring the speed. However, one problem with Base Velocity is that it only provides a measure of the wind speed towards and from a radar site in the south to north direction, so if a wind is blowing perpendicular to the beam (i.e. off to the side - either due east or due west), it would only measure the part coming at or going away from the beam, which results in inaccuracies in the radar data, because no matter how fast that wind is, it would still register as 0kts. This leads us to the need for the next product, Storm Relative Veloctiy.

Storm Relative Velocity - This is the exact same thing as Base Velocity with the exception that this takes into account the average direction and speed of the storms on the radar and applies it to the Base Velocity data. This is the most accurate velocity product to use when looking for winds in a storm.


Base Reflecitivity - This is similar to what you see on your TV when your local meteorologist does the news. Reflectivity is a measure of how much of the radar beam is being reflected back to the radar itself. The higher the reflectivity, the more of the beam has been returned to the radar. The beam will reflect off of almost anything, including rain, snow, hail, or anything else you can think of that would be in the air. The return, however, does not say anything as to what it is reflecting off of or the size or number of objects. So a bunch of little raindrops will look the same as a few big raindrops which will look the same as a couple of huge hailstones. More often then not, though, returns will be some combination of small raindrops, large raindrops, and sometimes hail. The actual identity of these objects, known as "hydrometeors" (it's almost always some form of water that the radar is looking at, hence the name), must be determined by the meteorologist using the radar products.

Composite Reflectivity: Before I explain composite reflectivity, I should explain a little more about how radars work. A radar will scan and create the base reflectivity product as you see above. This is only one slice through a storm, however. The radar will also make several scans higher up in a storm by tilting its beam upward. These tilts, while not directly available on the NWS pages, are used when creating the Composite Reflectivity. This is created by finding the highest reflectivity value in any of the scans over a particular location, and using that value for the reflectivity value in that square. Think of this as the heaviest rain (or whatever, remember what I said above) at any point in the storm over that particular square. [Good ways to use this product start here - may seem a little complicated] This product become useful when storms are starting to pop up over an area, as it will allow you to see precipitation falling (on the higher tilits) up to 20 minutes before it reaches the ground (what you see with the base reflectivity, which is the lowest tilt of the radar). It also allows you to see areas where heavier rain (like a red or purple color) has developed in a storm, but not fallen to the ground yet (where the base reflectivity would show orange, yellow, or even green). A situation like this is a potential for hail slightly further along in the storm's path, when those colors fall and reach the base reflectivity tilt.


And I'm pretty sure you can understand the one-hour and storm total rainfall products - just remember, these are estimates and the actual totals do vary from what this shows. This is not the radar actually measuring the rainfall, but rather a computer-generated estimate.


Anyway, I hope this helps and I hope I didn't ramble too much. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. There are plenty of us around who can answer your questions.
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#3 Postby futureforecaster » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:43 am

Before I comment on your explanation, let me ask for clarification. You say that RED is what's toward the radar. Does this mean that RED is the precipitation, and that GREEN is the beam from the radar?

Further comments below.

WindRunner wrote: ... I'll assume you understand what the loop is for.


Well.... no. I haven't yet learned what this term signifies. I do know that it causes what appears to be movement.

Base Velocity - This product can be used to determine wind speeds, as it is a measure of the speed of the precipitation that the radar is seeing over a particular area.


What is the unit of measurement for velocity here? I had assumed that the color bar on the right (KTS) was an indicator of the amount of precipitation, not velocity. Nevertheless, I assumed that the darker the color, the stronger the precip, or, according to what you've stated, velocity. But, now I'm wondering if the only colors relevant here are RED and GREEN.


Red areas are winds towards the radar site, and green are winds away from the radar site.


Again, which color represents the precipitation?

Base Reflecitivity - ... Reflectivity is a measure of how much of the radar beam is being reflected back to the radar itself.


This "reflection back" is the precip; is that correct? And once again, what determines (or better asked, "how can I tell") the amount of beam being reflected back.


Anyway, I hope this helps and I hope I didn't ramble too much. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. There are plenty of us around who can answer your questions.


You were very thoughtful and thorough, and I appreciate the help. Hopefully just a few more answers and I'm ready to learn more :wink:

Thanks for the reply, WindRunner.

Terry
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#4 Postby WindRunner » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:15 am

futureforecaster wrote:Before I comment on your explanation, let me ask for clarification. You say that RED is what's toward the radar. Does this mean that RED is the precipitation, and that GREEN is the beam from the radar?


When you are looking at a velocity product, velocity values will only show up where there is precipitation. Whether it is red, green, or purple showing, the radar cannot determine a velocity value for each square if there is no precipitation (as shown by the Base Reflecitivity) in that square. The radar uses the Doppler technique (hence the name Doppler radar) to measure the velocity of the precipitation - and if there isn't any precipitation, there's no velocity that can be found by the radar. You won't ever actually see the beam from the radar on any of the outputs, as each complete scan (all 360 degrees, all the way around) is done in less than a second. The colors only represent the direction of the velocities and not the prescence/lack of precipitation. A lack of color (i.e. ND, or No Data) does represent a lack of precipitation, though that is not the best way of determining precipitation. See the reflectivity products paragraph below.


The loop feature (on any of the products) will create a sequence of images that change over time. Since a new product will become available every so often (depending on the radar's current mode), each image will come in a set number of minutes after the old one, either 4, 5, 6, or 10 minutes later. This setting is controlled by the radar meteorologist in the NWS office that runs the radar site. In general, the NWS will set it to either the 4 or 5 minute setting during bad weather. This means that you can look at a sequence of whatever product you are viewing over the past hour or so. (It may go back further, I'm not sure. It will go back further if the radar is in a slower mode, like the 10 minute one) This allows you to see the motion of the storms over the past hour and any changes in intensity they may have made. It's the best way to see the storm's motion and possible future motion.


The units of measurement for velocity are knots (KTS), or nautical miles per hour. It's slightly more than a regular mile per hour, to convert, use this formula:

1.15*KTS=MPH

That should give you some idea of the number you are dealing with, and hopefully bring the whole velocity idea into a better perspective.
The red and green coloring represent the same thing - velocity, only that red is towards the radar (positive) and green is away from the radar (negative). The darker colors of both red and green represent the smaller velocities, while bright colors will represent the faster velocities. The actual maximum velocity that is on the scale will also vary by the radar's mode (the update speed), so be sure to check the scale each time you are looking at the radar. Also, remember the velocity says nothing about the strength of the precipitation, but only how fast the precipitation is moving within the storm, which will not tell you anything about the motion of the storm itself. Basically, the velocity product is a wind speed indicator.

The reflectivity products are the only ones that will show you precipitation, and the stronger the return, the more "hydrometeors" there are in that box. Precipitation is measure ind dBZ, which stands for decibels of Z - basically, how loud (decibels :wink: ) the beam's return is and therefore how much precipitation there is to reflect off of.

If you wanted to see the actual amount of precipiation, you should use either the one-hour total rainfall product or the storm total rainfall product. One-hour will give you an estimate of how much rainfall has fallen from any precipitation over a square in the past hour. Storm total keeps a running total of how much rainfall has fallen over each square in the time period found at the top right corner of the page. This is the only way you can determine the amount of precipitation by radar, and it is only an estimate, though it is usually approximately accurate, considering its lack of high resolution.

Again, if you have more questions, just ask. And welcome to Storm2k! :D
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#5 Postby futureforecaster » Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:01 am

windrunner, just a quick note to let you know I've neither forgotten your replies, nor given up. I'm trying to digest it all, and I'm sure I will have more questions in a few.

Thanks so much for the help.

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#6 Postby futureforecaster » Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:03 am

oh, I've seen radar images placed on the forums. How is that done?
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#7 Postby futureforecaster » Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:04 am

futureforecaster wrote:oh, I've seen radar images placed on the forums. How is that done?
oh ok, I see the image code. :idea:
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#8 Postby WindRunner » Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:22 am

futureforecaster wrote:
futureforecaster wrote:oh, I've seen radar images placed on the forums. How is that done?
oh ok, I see the image code. :idea:


Yeah, you just have to upload it to a place like ImgaeShack or FileDen (those are the two I use :wink: ) and paste the direct url inside the image tags. Just try to avoid posting large images, as this slows down the pages for people with slower connections, and so the mods will get on to you about that.


And yeah, take your time with digesting. I've given you a lot to learn over the past two days - I know it took me much longer to figure most of this stuff out on my own!
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#9 Postby hpsupercell » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:27 am

Good thoughts everyone! Radar isn't all that hard to read if you understand the basic concepts! :D
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