Israel thread #2

[feederband]

CNN is saying now that the US might have to send Marines in on helicopters to get all the civilians in remote places. They have no way out because the roads will be too dangerous.

The Marines in there will not be accepted well.

They said the Marines and helicopters would have to go over areas held by the enemies.

I know I seen that too..The Marines are going to get Americans that want to get out no matter where the are at . The head of the Marines that are going over there was doing the interview... SCARY...

[Stephanie]

I personally don't care if it's well received or not - we're trying to rescue our citizens.

[abajan]

Does anyone think Hezbollah will be destroyed in this conflict? Or will they remain as they are but just with a few less missiles? Or possibly new terrorists will emerge from the conflict like Hezbollah did in the 1980s and Al Qaeda after we armed them in Afghanistan to fight communism?

It is hard to imagine anything positive coming from this but I'm pretty cynical.

Here's what I think:

Before this conflict, most Lebanese probably despised Hezbollah. Now, after seeing all the death and destruction wrought on their citizens by Israel in their efforts to destroy Hezbollah... well, I think you can see where I'm going with this. I mean, isn't it a bit of a stretch at this juncture to ask Lebanese to understand Israel's point of view, however valid it may be?

Israel may have unwittingly created more enemies.

[Stephanie]

I think that they are all in some ways enemies of each other. With that said, I'm hoping that the citizens of Lebanon's reaction is the OPPOSITE of your opinion abajan. MAYBE this will give the government/people the incentive to help get rid of them. It's a long shot and probably a pipe dream but I'd LOVE to see the tide turning against the terrorists for once and have that particular country act as if they don't want to be "victims" anymore.

[Cookiely]

Resolution Supporting Israel
By Dan Robinson
Washington
20 July 2006

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The U.S. House of Representatives will vote Thursday on a strong resolution supporting Israel in its conflict with Hezbollah and Hamas. The lawmakers held an extended debate Wednesday on the crisis in the Middle East.

House lawmakers support Israel's right to use appropriate action to defend itself against attacks.

They say such defense includes conducting operations both in Israel and the territory of nations posing a threat to it, under Article 51 of the U.N. Charter.

The resolution notes Lebanon's failure to disarm and disband the Hezbollah in accordance with U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559 and it blames Iran and Syria for supporting terrorist activities against Israel.

"Any result of this fighting that leaves Hezbollah in occupation of southern Lebanon will be a victory for Iran and for Syria, for fanaticism and for terror, and a defeat for Lebanon and for Middle East peace," said California Democrat Tom Lantos.

"Any government that would allow terrorists to attack its citizens and do nothing in response but protest or beg for mercy would betray its most sacred trust," said Henry Hyde, Republican Chairman of the House International Relations Committee, in defending Israel's response to Hezbollah and Hamas.

This past Tuesday, the Senate approved a similar resolution.

Democratic Senator Joseph Biden says the Bush administration needs to gather the diplomatic backing it needs to pressure Syria and Iran to end their support for Hezbollah and Hamas. "For the world's own good, now is the time to put the screws on Syria, make the world united in their dissatisfaction and communicate it to the Iranians, build up the Lebanese capability, and focus on Hezbollah as the problem," he said.

As Senator Biden was speaking, White House spokesman Tony Snow was telling reporters the U.S. is stepping up diplomatic efforts.

However, responding to a reporter's question, he said those will not include any direct high-level contacts between President Bush and Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. "There is absolutely no reason to assume, based on the track record, that negotiations and conversations with the Syrians would yield any fruit," he said.

Syria's State-run News Agency Wednesday said the Syrian leader, in a telephone conversation with Turkey's Prime Minister, discussed the need for the international community to quickly arrange a ceasefire.

Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice and other U.S. officials say a solution is needed that will result in a long-term ceasefire along the Israel-Lebanon border, and enable the Lebanese government to assert control in the area.
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[stormtruth]

Iraq PM denouces Israel:

"The Israeli attacks and airstrikes are completely destroying Lebanon's infrastructure," Maliki told reporters in Baghdad. "I condemn these aggressions and call on the Arab League foreign ministers' meeting in Cairo to take quick action to stop these aggressions. We call on the world to take quick stands to stop the Israeli aggression."

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?S ... 3626-5815r

[Brent]

The USS Nashville has arrived in Lebanon with U.S. Marines onboard to help with evacuations. On CNN. First time since 1983.

[Johno8080]

Does the US have to get involved with this? like do all UN countries have to contribute to this if it did turn into world war? Cus im hoping that if it did happen the Aussie's would be out of it cus of there involvement in east timor at the moment

Is that how it works? anyone know?

[Regit]

Does the US have to get involved with this? like do all UN countries have to contribute to this if it did turn into world war? Cus im hoping that if it did happen the Aussie's would be out of it cus of there involvement in east timor at the moment

Is that how it works? anyone know?

No other countries will become involved unless they are attacked or this thing spreads so out of control that it's a major threat to world stability. Even if it spreads to Iran, the US and UN won't become involved simply to have an excuse to beat Iran. Israel has the ability to ruin Iran all by itself.

Israel Vice Premier Shimon Perez told MSNBC in an interview today that Israel is quite proud of the fact that in all its history it has never had to ask for the assistance of US soldiers and plans to keep it that way.

It's being blown way out of proportion. I don't think most people realize that Israel has both the technology and stamina to beat Lebanon, Syria, and Iran all by itself.

[Johno8080]

are so we are out of it! hope so anyway!

[Brent]

Does the US have to get involved with this? like do all UN countries have to contribute to this if it did turn into world war? Cus im hoping that if it did happen the Aussie's would be out of it cus of there involvement in east timor at the moment

Is that how it works? anyone know?

No other countries will become involved unless they are attacked or this thing spreads so out of control that it's a major threat to world stability. Even if it spreads to Iran, the US and UN won't become involved simply to have an excuse to beat Iran. Israel has the ability to ruin Iran all by itself.

Israel Vice Premier Shimon Perez told MSNBC in an interview today that Israel is quite proud of the fact that in all its history it has never had to ask for the assistance of US soldiers and plans to keep it that way.

It's being blown way out of proportion. I don't think most people realize that Israel has both the technology and stamina to beat Lebanon, Syria, and Iran all by itself.

Yep. Don't ever mess with Israel... you'll be sorry. They have the same high-tech toys we do.

[Johno8080]

So then there entitled to it!

[Cookiely]

Does anyone think Hezbollah will be destroyed in this conflict? Or will they remain as they are but just with a few less missiles? Or possibly new terrorists will emerge from the conflict like Hezbollah did in the 1980s and Al Qaeda after we armed them in Afghanistan to fight communism?

It is hard to imagine anything positive coming from this but I'm pretty cynical.

I'm certain they won't be destroyed. The best case scenario would be that they're so severely weakened that the Lebanese army is capable of securing southern Lebanon once the Israelis pull out again.

They haven't accomplished much so far and I have doubts they can accomplish anything in the future. At least some of the Arab countries seem fed up with these terrorist cells. As long as Syria and Iran arm and fund these terrorists nothing is going to change. Its like that movie ground hog day.
On Hezbollah, Arab League Divided Over Legitimacy of Attacks; Syria Supports

Foreign ministers of 18 Arab countries held an emergency summit in Cairo on Saturday over Israeli action in Lebanon, but squabbles over the legitimacy of Hezbollah's attacks on Israel --including the kidnapping of two IDF soldiers-- appeared likely to keep participants from reaching a consensus, delegates said.

The Saudi foreign minister appeared to be leading a camp of ministers criticizing the Hezbollah's actions, calling them "unexpected, inappropriate and irresponsible acts." "These acts will pull the whole region back to years ago, and we cannot simply accept them," Saudi al-Faisal told his counterparts. It appeared that Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Iraq, Bahrain, the UAE and the Palestinian Authority were in agreement.

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem, however, lashed back al-Faisal, asking "How can we come here to discuss the burning situation in Lebanon while others are making statements criticizing the resistance?" Moallem called Hezbollah's action "legitimate acts in line with international resolutions and the UN charter, as acts of resistance," delegates said.

Jul 15, 2006 in Arab League, Bahrain, Egypt, Hezbollah, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Palestinian Authority, Saudi Arabia, Syria, UAE | Permalink

[artist]

I heard from a couple of retired military yesterday on the news that about 40% of Lebanon are Hezbollah. If that is the case then Lebanon was being overrun with them and they need to go.

[stormtruth]

I heard from a couple of retired military yesterday on the news that about 40% of Lebanon are Hezbollah. If that is the case then Lebanon was being overrun with them and they need to go.

That sounds high. It won't happen anyway. Israel will fight them for a short time and then cave in to international and U.S. pressure.

[angelwing]

Breaking NewsTHE FIRST PLANE CARRYING AMERICAN EVACUEES FROM LEBANON HAS LANDED IN BALTIMORE


(ABC news)

[NBCintern]

Does the US have to get involved with this? like do all UN countries have to contribute to this if it did turn into world war? Cus im hoping that if it did happen the Aussie's would be out of it cus of there involvement in east timor at the moment

Is that how it works? anyone know?

No other countries will become involved unless they are attacked or this thing spreads so out of control that it's a major threat to world stability. Even if it spreads to Iran, the US and UN won't become involved simply to have an excuse to beat Iran. Israel has the ability to ruin Iran all by itself.

Israel Vice Premier Shimon Perez told MSNBC in an interview today that Israel is quite proud of the fact that in all its history it has never had to ask for the assistance of US soldiers and plans to keep it that way.

It's being blown way out of proportion. I don't think most people realize that Israel has both the technology and stamina to beat Lebanon, Syria, and Iran all by itself.

Yep. Don't ever mess with Israel... you'll be sorry. They have the same high-tech toys we do.

that has to be the most ridiculous statements yet.

[artist]

I personally think the Israeli's are going to be given more support (whether openly or not) than they ever have before.

[Janice]

* Marines help hundreds escape from Lebanon
* Navy hopes to ferry 1,200 Americans onto the Nashville by tonight
* No plans yet to help several hundred Americans in southern Lebanon
* First plane of evacuees lands in Baltimore

[Brent]

Does the US have to get involved with this? like do all UN countries have to contribute to this if it did turn into world war? Cus im hoping that if it did happen the Aussie's would be out of it cus of there involvement in east timor at the moment

Is that how it works? anyone know?

No other countries will become involved unless they are attacked or this thing spreads so out of control that it's a major threat to world stability. Even if it spreads to Iran, the US and UN won't become involved simply to have an excuse to beat Iran. Israel has the ability to ruin Iran all by itself.

Israel Vice Premier Shimon Perez told MSNBC in an interview today that Israel is quite proud of the fact that in all its history it has never had to ask for the assistance of US soldiers and plans to keep it that way.

It's being blown way out of proportion. I don't think most people realize that Israel has both the technology and stamina to beat Lebanon, Syria, and Iran all by itself.

Yep. Don't ever mess with Israel... you'll be sorry. They have the same high-tech toys we do.

that has to be the most ridiculous statements yet.

How?