Israel vs Hezbollah Thread #3

Audrey2Katrina · #261 Postby **Audrey2Katrina** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:28 pm

This post shows your prejudice against Arab names and now you say you won't apologize for it. You can't be taken seriously on this issue anymore.

This post shows your :uarrow:

incapacity for sticking to the issues at hand and a clear predilection for diversion.

A2K

stormtruth · #262 Postby **stormtruth** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:30 pm

Audrey2Katrina wrote:OMG.. I just noticed the writer of the article for which you provided the link:

By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA
Associated Press Writer

ROFL... Now I'm certain that is a truly objectively written article!!!

A2K

Will a MOD please have A2K apologize for this bigoted post by A2K. Thank you.

Audrey2Katrina · #263 Postby **Audrey2Katrina** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:47 pm

Will a MOD please have A2K apologize for this bigoted post by A2K. Thank you.

Gonna milk this for everything you can, huh Storm? :roll:

Still trying to stay on topic here!

A2K

#264 Postby **BreinLa** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:01 pm

Gonna remind you guys to stay on topic, this thread is only about Israel vs Hezbollah Thread , nothing else.

Audrey2Katrina · #265 Postby **Audrey2Katrina** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:09 pm

Thank You !

Just out... Emergency meeting of the entire Israeli Cabinet...

Something is in the offing here, could go either way.

A2K

Stratosphere747 · #266 Postby **Stratosphere747** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:11 pm

A2K...

Could you link your sources. It would make it much easier to keep track.

The Sandcrab · #267 Postby **The Sandcrab** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:12 pm

Israel is calling up another 15K reserves, after calling up another 15-30K a few days ago, and has also announced they are widening the ground war.

Re: Syria and Iran http://www.cfr.org/publication/11122/sy ... flict.html

Janice · #268 Postby **Janice** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:13 pm

Israel widening ground war

Israeli officials say ground offensive to expand
War will stop when threat removed, Israeli PM says
Hezbollah has suffered heavy blow, PM adds

http://www.cnn.com/

Audrey2Katrina · #269 Postby **Audrey2Katrina** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:18 pm

A2K...

Could you link your sources. It would make it much easier to keep track.

Sorry, perhaps I should have added that I'd just heard it on TV News... couldn't very well attach a link; but doubtless should have mentioned that--usually do.

point noted!

A2K

Audrey2Katrina · #270 Postby **Audrey2Katrina** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:21 pm

Interesting Report right now from FOX news... (Shephard Smith's show--airing now)... they're about to have an interview with a former So. Lebanese fighter who fought beside the Hezbollah, and the suggestion was he would tell how Nasrallah (sp?) might not really care how this thing turns out.

I have no idea what he meant by that; but just in case anyone's following, that's what's coming up next on the show.

A2K

stormtruth · #271 Postby **stormtruth** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:23 pm

Audrey2Katrina wrote:Interesting Report right now from FOX news... (Shephard Smith's show--airing now)... they're about to have an interview with a former So. Lebanese fighter who fought beside the Hezbollah, and the suggestion was he would tell how Nasrallah (sp?) might not really care how this thing turns out.

I have no idea what he meant by that; but just in case anyone's following, that's what's coming up next on the show.

A2K

Excuse me. Shephard Smith? That sounds like a caucasian name. He can't possibly be objective :roll:

The Sandcrab · #272 Postby **The Sandcrab** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:29 pm

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, speaking to a gathering of mayors in Tel Aviv, earlier ruled out a cease-fire until two Israeli soldiers seized by Hezbollah have been returned and the threat from Hezbollah rocket attacks has been removed.

"The fighting continues," he said. "There is no cease-fire, and there will not be any cease-fire in the coming days."

He spoke just hours after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reported general agreement on terms for a U.N. Security Council cease-fire resolution to end hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah. "I take with me an emerging consensus on what is necessary for both an urgent cease-fire and lasting settlement," Rice told reporters in Jerusalem before flying back to Washington. "I am convinced we can achieve both this week."

WaPo Israel's Olmert Rules Out Cease Fire

Audrey2Katrina · #273 Postby **Audrey2Katrina** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:32 pm

Excuse me. Shephard Smith? That sounds like a caucasian. He can possibly be objective

You just don't want to quit beating that dead horse do you? Anyway--if that's how you see it... perhaps not; albeit he has been cited as being quite liberal in his views...has been reporting from Lebanon and extremely sensitive to the plight of the "innocent civilians"... but I guess ya just never know tho' do ya? :wink:

Back on topic... If Hezbollah does, in fact, have the longer range missiles, one wonders if it is Iran (probably is) that is holding them back, for the time being from unleashing an attack that could reach near Tel-Aviv. I think these two sides are playing a dangerous game of "chicken".

A2K

stormtruth · #274 Postby **stormtruth** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:37 pm

Audrey2Katrina wrote:
Excuse me. Shephard Smith? That sounds like a caucasian. He can possibly be objective

You just don't want to quit beating that dead horse do you? Anyway--if that's how you see it... perhaps not; albeit he has been cited as being quite liberal in his views...has been reporting from Lebanon and extremely sensitive to the plight of the "innocent civilians"... but I guess ya just never know tho' do ya?

Back on topic... If Hezbollah does, in fact, have the longer range missiles, one wonders if it is Iran (probably is) that is holding them back, for the time being from unleashing an attack that could reach near Tel-Aviv. I think these two sides are playing a dangerous game of "chicken".

A2K

not sure bout Shepard just being sarcastic. Hez probably has some long rangers. Not sure if any other countries could get them into Lebanon very easily. How big are they? How hard to conceal them is it?

Audrey2Katrina · #275 Postby **Audrey2Katrina** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:41 pm

Yup, Olmert has completely ruled out any cease fire. He's been saying this for days. I wonder if those soldiers are even still alive?
Although as recently as a week ago, the Guardian was reporting that according to Nasrallah (dubious at best) they were still alive and well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5969961,00.html

A2K

The Sandcrab · #276 Postby **The Sandcrab** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:42 pm

this is their known arsenal

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... ockets.htm

Audrey2Katrina · #277 Postby **Audrey2Katrina** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:43 pm

How hard to conceal them is it?

That's a valid question; but most of the pundits seem to think that Iran is holding them back. They've been hiding a lot of things pretty well for quite some time. It is estimated that there are at least 10,000 of those Katyusha (sp?) missiles already in Lebanon now.

A2K

The Sandcrab · #278 Postby **The Sandcrab** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:51 pm

It depends on the rocket, but mostly it depends on the launcher, if they're ground-launched (easily disassembled) or truck mounted. Israel said it mistook some of the civilian trucks it has hit for launchers. There are pictures of this stuff and the specs, etc. in the link above.

Stratosphere747 · #279 Postby **Stratosphere747** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:58 pm

Surprised that it took Israel this long to commit a more pronounced ground attack. Most likely they bought into the idea of a air campaign doing the job.

What many should start to realize, and I've felt this way since this conflict has begun. Israel has had enough, plain and simple. Condi don't call, Kofi don't call, Tony don't call....etc…

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but they seem as commited as they ever have been. The words spoken by Ahmadinejad may have been the final straw. Just took a bit of time to initialize their real response.

stormtruth · #280 Postby **stormtruth** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:04 pm

The Sandcrab wrote:It depends on the rocket, but mostly it depends on the launcher, if they're ground-launched (easily disassembled) or truck mounted. Israel said it mistook some of the civilian trucks it has hit for launchers. There are pictures of this stuff and the specs, etc. in the link above.

I think those bigger rockets requiring launchers are going to be tough to sneak in. It might be easy to sneak in the Katyusha rockets.

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