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#1641 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:47 am

11am = still 65mph (guess they are waiting on further recon for an upgrade), pressure still 1001mb.
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#1642 Postby Brent » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:48 am

TROPICAL STORM CHRIS DISCUSSION NUMBER 8
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL032006
1100 AM EDT WED AUG 02 2006

DATA FROM THE SAN JUAN WSR-88D DOPPLER RADAR AND HIGH-RESOLUTION
VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY SUGGEST THAT CHRIS IS GRADUALLY BECOMING
BETTER ORGANIZED AS IT CONTINUES TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 9
KT. INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET AT 55 KT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAST
RECON-MEASURED FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS OF 67 KT AND DVORAK T-NUMBERS OF
3.5 FROM BOTH TAFB AND SAB. CIRRUS MOTIONS INDICATE THAT CHRIS
CONTINUES TO BE EXPERIENCING SOME NORTHERLY SHEAR. ON THE
PREDICTED TRACK...AND BASED ON THE 200 MB WIND FORECAST FROM THE
GFS...CHRIS WILL BE IN A COL REGION BETWEEN TWO UPPER-LEVEL
CYCLONES DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THIS IS A REASONABLY FAVORABLE
UPPER-LEVEL ENVIRONMENT...SO A GRADUAL INCREASE IN STRENGTH IS
FORECAST. THE NHC WIND SPEED FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO THE LATEST
SHIPS GUIDANCE AND A LITTLE ABOVE THE FSU SUPERENSEMBLE PREDICTION.
AS ALWAYS...IT SHOULD BE RECALLED THAT TROPICAL CYCLONE INTENSITY
FORECASTS AT 3-5 DAYS HAVE LITTLE SKILL.

LATEST CENTER FIXES SUGGEST LITTLE CHANGE IN THE INITIAL HEADING OR
SPEED. GLOBAL MODELS INDICATE THAT THE MID/UPPER-LEVEL LOW NEAR
THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS WILL MOVE WESTWARD AND SLOWLY WEAKEN OVER THE
NEXT FEW DAYS...WHILE A RATHER STRONG MID-TROPOSPHERIC RIDGE BUILDS
TO THE NORTH OF CHRIS. THIS KIND OF FLOW PATTERN WOULD STEER THE
TROPICAL CYCLONE ON A GENERAL WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TRACK. HOWEVER AN
EVEN STRONGER RIDGE WOULD LIKELY DRIVE CHRIS WESTWARD. INDEED...
THIS IS THE SCENARIO OFFERED BY THE GFDL MODEL WHICH EVEN TURNS THE
SYSTEM WEST-SOUTHWESTWARD FOR A WHILE. WHEREAS THE GFDL IS A
HIGHLY CREDIBLE MODEL...THE MOST PRUDENT COURSE AT THIS TIME IS TO
USE THE CONSENSUS OF ALL OF THE DYNAMICAL MODELS. THIS IS ALSO
VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS NHC TRACK.



FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 02/1500Z 19.2N 63.4W 55 KT
12HR VT 03/0000Z 19.8N 64.8W 60 KT
24HR VT 03/1200Z 20.3N 66.4W 65 KT
36HR VT 04/0000Z 20.8N 68.0W 65 KT
48HR VT 04/1200Z 21.4N 70.1W 70 KT
72HR VT 05/1200Z 22.5N 74.5W 70 KT
96HR VT 06/1200Z 23.5N 79.0W 70 KT
120HR VT 07/1200Z 24.5N 83.5W 70 KT

$$
FORECASTER PASCH
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#1643 Postby mtm4319 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:49 am

Chris may be hitting a pocket of Saharan air this afternoon/tonight:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/wavetrak/winds/m8split.jpg
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#1644 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:49 am

11am track:

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#1645 Postby skufful » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:51 am

mtm4319 wrote:Chris may be hitting a pocket of Saharan air this afternoon/tonight:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/wavetrak/winds/m8split.jpg


I Don't see that.
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#1646 Postby skufful » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:52 am

skufful wrote:
mtm4319 wrote:Chris may be hitting a pocket of Saharan air this afternoon/tonight:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/wavetrak/winds/m8split.jpg


I Don't see that.


That "edit" does however make a difference in what I see.
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#1647 Postby swimaster20 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:52 am

No, the track EWG posted from WxUnderground is the correct 11 Am track.
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#1648 Postby gtalum » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:52 am

The points are always 3 hours previous to the forecast time.
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#1649 Postby mtm4319 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:55 am

What's making the NHC forecast this to stay at lower cat-1 intensity for 4 whole days?
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#1650 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:56 am

mtm4319 wrote:What's making the NHC forecast this to stay at lower cat-1 intensity for 4 whole days?
From the latest advisory: "IT SHOULD BE RECALLED THAT TROPICAL CYCLONE INTENSITY
FORECASTS AT 3-5 DAYS HAVE LITTLE SKILL" Dont be shocked if it is a little conserative.
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#1651 Postby dwg71 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:56 am

mtm4319 wrote:What's making the NHC forecast this to stay at lower cat-1 intensity for 4 whole days?


discussion mentions some northerly shear to be a player for a while. Not much but some.
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#1652 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:56 am

i would at least put it at 100mph at day 5 when at the GOM, assuming this thing continues to strengthen at least 10mph a day
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#1653 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:57 am

If it's at the Monday 8am position as a major cane there will be major panic ensuing along the gulf coast. I have a feeling New Orleans will be begin to evacuate Sunday.
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#1654 Postby Scorpion » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:57 am

The NHC likes to be conservative until it is a sure thing that it won't impact Hispaniola.
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#1655 Postby gtalum » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:57 am

mtm4319 wrote:What's making the NHC forecast this to stay at lower cat-1 intensity for 4 whole days?


Land interaction and shear would be my guess.
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#1656 Postby Brent » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:57 am

mtm4319 wrote:What's making the NHC forecast this to stay at lower cat-1 intensity for 4 whole days?


I'm not entirely sure. I think they are going along with the models though... there's no way if it follows that track it'll only be 70 kt on Monday Morning IMO.
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#1657 Postby dwg71 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:57 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:i would at least put it at 100mph, assuming this thing continues to strengthen at least 10mph a day


you cannot assume that...it could increase by 50 one day or decrease by 10.
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#1658 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:00 am

thats why i said ASSUMING it conitnues to strengthen at a graudual pace...yesterday it strengthened 25mph more...I think its possible
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#1659 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:01 am

Where the heck is out Advisory thread?
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#1660 Postby StormWarning1 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:03 am

I think the NHC is waiting for better model guidance and for the storm to move North of the Domincan Rep. before increasing day 4 and 5 windspeeds. The GFDL has it going over the DR and they like that model. I don't think it will move over the DR.
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