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#41 Postby CocoCreek » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:59 am

BlowMeAway wrote: This is like hurricane forecasting a la 1956, not 2006!


It shows that we have a long way to go and we will never be perfect.
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#42 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:01 am

I forgot about storm size in the Florida Straits.

The 1935 200mph storm blew up in 1 day to category 5 because it was so small it didn't have to pull that much storm mass around itself in order to bomb.
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#43 Postby westmoon » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:01 am

I believe it is picking up forward speed.

Glad i'm not the only one seeing that
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#44 Postby tgenius » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:02 am

I think the watches will upgrade to warnings at 5pm.. for the sake of the schools they kinda have to.
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#45 Postby miamicanes177 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:04 am

This is in awful share right now and will likely be downgraded still further to a depression at 4pm.
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#46 Postby JPmia » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:04 am

They will upgrade at 5pm per the thinking from my local government, i imagine not all of them will perhaps only the original ones in South FL first then up the coast later tonight.
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#47 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:04 am

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#48 Postby westmoon » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:04 am

The big question is how much longer can it move to the nw before it starts turning to the east?
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#49 Postby wjs3 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:07 am

cpdaman wrote:is the ull in the bahamas mentioned in any discussion of the storm i mean really it is right in it's path WTF


I'm kind of with you here. I must have been asleep at this switch. I knew there was a ULL there, but not so close. It has really shown up well on satellite and a lot closer to the storm than I thought. Take a look at the model runs though...that ULL is FLYING westward, and folks are right...it doesn't look so strong, especially as it moves west.

Nevertheless, I do think it's causing problems right now, and kind of missed this.
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#50 Postby cpdaman » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:08 am

no the big question is wether the ridge will bend it back more westward like the forecasts have it moving (TRUE NW) not 325 degrees nw
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#51 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:09 am

miamicanes177 wrote:This is in awful share right now and will likely be downgraded still further to a depression at 4pm.


this is expected...but just wait until it fully emerges.... :eek: We've seen this time and time again with other storms.
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#52 Postby Droop12 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:09 am

Could anyone tell me where the center is on Cuba? I cant get the radar to load. Is it close to exiting or taking its time?
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#53 Postby Steve » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:10 am

>>Moderators?

Why? :?:
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#54 Postby drezee » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:10 am

Sanibel wrote:I forgot about storm size in the Florida Straits.

The 1935 200mph storm blew up in 1 day to category 5 because it was so small it didn't have to pull that much storm mass around itself in order to bomb.


Actually I thought it took 36 hours from classification of Cat 1 to Cat5.

It took 3-4 days to go from TS to Cat3 though
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#55 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:11 am

Steve wrote:>>Moderators?

Why? :?:


Inappropriate language:

The first significant storm of the season, so everyone has gone apeshit over it, including the forecasters and media
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#56 Postby HurricaneJim » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:11 am

I would not count this guy out yet. Last night (all night...yawn) it got all wrapped around the axel on Haiti's S. neck, then it spends five seconds over warm water and spools up again. Now it's headed towards the untouched bathwater of the Gulf Stream. They live on water...

Bahamas will run their usual interference but that will be short lived. As I was pointing out all last night, Navy WAM has been two steps ahead of everyone else the whole time. They're sticking with their buzz saw up the east coast model.

Now, the high pressure that's pushing east across the US will nudge it farther out but how far is the question.

I expect it to do what water hounds do....run the GS right on up.

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#57 Postby jasons2k » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:13 am

wjs3 wrote:
cpdaman wrote:is the ull in the bahamas mentioned in any discussion of the storm i mean really it is right in it's path WTF


I'm kind of with you here. I must have been asleep at this switch. I knew there was a ULL there, but not so close. It has really shown up well on satellite and a lot closer to the storm than I thought. Take a look at the model runs though...that ULL is FLYING westward, and folks are right...it doesn't look so strong, especially as it moves west.

Nevertheless, I do think it's causing problems right now, and kind of missed this.


I asked about this ULL twice last night and didn't get a single response :roll:
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#58 Postby Stratosphere747 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:13 am

Steve wrote:>>Moderators?

Why? :?:


There was some Texan type language within the post...;)

PM a mod Gator, instead of repeating it....Good grief.


That ULL north does seem to be having some impact. And until recon fixes the center again, it will be hard to find it. Does like like it is going thru yet another reformation just off the coast.
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#59 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:13 am

Like Andrew it tracked under a ridge east to west. I'm not sure about SE to N recurvers having the same forcing as 1935 and Andrew.

But the SST's are there.
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#60 Postby Steve » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:14 am

>>Inappropriate language...

I missed that. :oops:
:D

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