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#441 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:15 pm

Canelaw99 wrote:
SouthFloridawx wrote:This system is definitely feeling the effects from the trough to it's north.
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(trying to learn here) - what do you see that makes you say that?


I'm seeing that because the trough is pulling the system to the north as it is becoming better organized. In the picture below you can see the Upper Clouds on the North and Northeastern sides being whisked away to the notheast which is clearly evident that it is being caused by the Upper Level Trough to its north. The same trough just obliterated an Upper Level low that was situated to the northeast of the system.

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http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _ls_0.html
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#442 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:17 pm

Have you guys even looked at the 6-7-8-9 day GFS model forecasts?????

Or do you just see waves and roll the dice, use ouija board, 8-ball, tarot cards, horoscopes?
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#443 Postby Canelaw99 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:18 pm

Ah, ty, Southflorida ;)
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#444 Postby stormernie » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:18 pm

It already looks to be a tropical storm, and the movement seems to be more north than west.

The faster it develops the less likelihood for it to threaten the US or anyone else.

Let's hope it develops and heads for a fishing trip.
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#445 Postby Beam » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:18 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:Have you guys even looked at the 6-7-8-9 day GFS model forecasts?????

Or do you just see waves and roll the dice, use ouija board, 8-ball, tarot cards, horoscopes?


You'd have about the same amount of reliability either way.
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#446 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:20 pm

I agree SouthFloridawx, it definitely is feeling the effects of that huge trough. I think now the question will be how quickly this system develops. I have to think that a rapidly developing system will be pulled more poleward and recurve out to sea due to this mid atlantic trough. On the other hand a weaker, slower developing system will head more WNW and let the trough clear out allowing that ridge to build back in. Not only will that allow it to go west but it would also provide a condusive environment for strengthening. That scares me!!!

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#447 Postby Canelaw99 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:20 pm

Yep, have seen the GFS...here's the GFS 144 hrs. out, for whatever it's worth (which may or may not be much):

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.cgi?time=2006090312&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
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#448 Postby Trugunzn » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:20 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:
Canelaw99 wrote:
SouthFloridawx wrote:This system is definitely feeling the effects from the trough to it's north.
(removed image)
(trying to learn here) - what do you see that makes you say that?


I'm seeing that because the trough is pulling the system to the north as it is becoming better organized. In the picture below you can see the Upper Clouds on the North and Northeastern sides being whisked away to the notheast which is clearly evident that it is being caused by the Upper Level Trough to its north. The same trough just obliterated an Upper Level low that was situated to the northeast of the system.

Image

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _ls_0.html
:uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: Loop


Ithink the trough will be a big part of what TD6 will do. It will eaither weaken the high or weaken TD6
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#449 Postby Trugunzn » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:21 pm

Canelaw99 wrote:Yep, have seen the GFS...here's the GFS 144 hrs. out, for whatever it's worth (which may or may not be much):

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.cgi?time=2006090312&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


Then it curves it out
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#450 Postby AZRainman » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:22 pm

Looks like it's going to slip under the ridge.

GFS says heads up East Coast.

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http://weather.cod.edu/forecast/loop.gfs10d500t.html
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#451 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:24 pm

Ithink the trough will be a big part of what TD6 will do. It will eaither weaken the high or weaken TD6


IMO this trough is going to help save the US from a possible Major event in 7-11 days. If the trough pulls this system out to sea with it that is awesome.. If not, IMHO everyone on the east coast needs to check thier supplies in the coming days.

Hopefully another trough will dip down as it "Florence" approaches the US east coast. Will it be strong enough... will the Bermuda high be reinforced?
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#452 Postby Bgator » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:24 pm

Trugunzn wrote:
Canelaw99 wrote:Yep, have seen the GFS...here's the GFS 144 hrs. out, for whatever it's worth (which may or may not be much):

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.cgi?time=2006090312&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


Then it curves it out


Dont even bother with the GFS 10 days out when it curves it...thats just as good as a psycic saying what it will do, what i can tell models arent the best on how strong trofs will be, and if the GFS plays true a pretty strong trof will have to dig all the way down to Sfla...
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#453 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:27 pm

FOR WHAT ITS WORTH....

Spoke with KFDM met....GFS turns it up East Coast in about a week with a Cat 3
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#454 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:29 pm

Hint: Do not trust 10 day GFS.
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#455 Postby caneman » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:31 pm

GFDL takes it West. I wouldn't be so quick to write off as a fish spinner.
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#456 Postby Trugunzn » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:32 pm

Interesting what next GFDL run will show,
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#457 Postby AZRainman » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:33 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:Hint: Do not trust 10 day GFS.


You have a better crystal ball? LOL

Ernesto already proved even 3 days out can be a farce forecast, but that doesn't mean tea leave forecasts are more valid than a super computer.

Have to go with the tools that you have....
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#458 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:34 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:FOR WHAT ITS WORTH....

Spoke with KFDM met....GFS turns it up East Coast in about a week with a Cat 3


That is a possibility but certainly not writtten in stone by KFDM or anyone else for that matter this early out.
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#459 Postby WindRunner » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:34 pm

Official advisory is out now.
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#460 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:35 pm

IMO the GFS and the GFDL are the most trusted models right now, but since they do not have a consensus then that means we can't have a good fix on whether this hits land or not. Right we should prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
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