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#181 Postby Regit » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:26 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:Any new information in from Virginia yet?



The parties are going around and checking for irregularities, but nothing yet.

Webb's lead is over 7,000 votes. I've never heard of a lead like that evaporating in a recount. If the lead were a couple of hundred, Allen would have a shot, but not so much now. So I think it's safe to assume Webb will win unless there's a miracle for Allen.
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#182 Postby gtalum » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:37 pm

Allen should concede. Hopefully we will avoid a mess like the 2000 presidential election.
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#183 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:53 pm

gtalum wrote:Allen should concede. Hopefully we will avoid a mess like the 2000 presidential election.


I agree.
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#184 Postby Regit » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:21 pm

VIRGINIA SENATE UPDATE:

Some of the votes have not been counted in Fairfax, VA, Loudoun, VA, and Isle of Wight, VA.

Fairfax and Loudoun both favor Webb. Isle of Wight favors Allen. Unfortunately for Allen, only a few votes will trickle from Isle of Wight.

As I said before, things look very bad for Allen. I doubt he'll drag the race on for long. While Virginia is becoming increasingly hostile to Republicans, Allen would still have a chance for a comeback later in his life if he bows out gracefully and early.


As for Webb, it appears he has the ladies to thank if he does indeed win.

55% of men voted for Allen while 55% of women voted for Webb. The difference? 51% of those who voted yesterday were women.
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#185 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:39 pm

so did the democrats win majority in senate? I know they won the senate...but did they win it all? (if I got enough of my point across)
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#186 Postby gtalum » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:40 pm

It all rides on the outcome of the VA race.
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#187 Postby Regit » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:41 pm

brunota2003 wrote:so did the democrats win majority in senate? I know they won the senate...but did they win it all? (if I got enough of my point across)



Unless Allen comes up with 7,000 votes, then yes, the Dems will win the Senate majority.
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#188 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:43 pm

Regit wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:so did the democrats win majority in senate? I know they won the senate...but did they win it all? (if I got enough of my point across)



Unless Allen comes up with 7,000 votes, then yes, the Dems will win the Senate majority.


Yeah... it would be 49-49-2 with the 2 Independents mostly likely both voting with the Democrats so it would really be 51-49.
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#189 Postby Regit » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:22 pm

The two independents are Joe Lieberman and Bernie Sanders.

Lieberman will caucus with the Democrats to keep his seniority.

And an agreement between the Republicans and Bernie Sanders would be like an agreement between chickens and Colonel Sanders.
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#190 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:23 pm

Conrad Burns is apparently not conceding in Montana. He trails by 2,847 votes right now.
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#191 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:31 pm

Hasn't the Virginia Senate been taken by Webb yet?
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#192 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:37 pm

I voted for the first time (I became a citizen exactly two months ago.) I was in the precint at 6:45 AM and I was the only person below 50 years of age!!! I'm a Democrat and really happy that my party is now the leader in Congress. I want a change to happen, and I hope it's for the best of eveyone. Here in Florida only 40% of the elegible voters voted, and once again, a minority decided for the mayority.
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#193 Postby lester » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:47 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:Hasn't the Virginia Senate been taken by Webb yet?

nope...Allen hasn't conceded yet and may demand a recount
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#194 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:07 pm

lester88 wrote:
MiamiensisWx wrote:Hasn't the Virginia Senate been taken by Webb yet?

nope...Allen hasn't conceded yet and may demand a recount


I wish Allen would concede(7,000 votes is going to be impossible to overcome), but if he doesn't, it could go on for weeks. How fun.
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#195 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:20 pm

Brent wrote:
lester88 wrote:nope...Allen hasn't conceded yet and may demand a recount


I wish Allen would concede(7,000 votes is going to be impossible to overcome), but if he doesn't, it could go on for weeks. How fun.


I concur. This shouldn't be another fantasy land on the Potomac and another mess of a vote count. I still have a suspicion that Webb will hold out, though.
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#196 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:25 pm

I think a lot of this hate for Liberals has to do with convservative leadership saying that the dems are bad and just want higher taxes. I say that it was a party that lost it's power and was just trying smear tactics to stay alive.

I think people in this country needs to pay a little more to what is happening and a little less to what the media is saying is happening.

All "Conservative" or "Liberal" is, is a label given to those people who think they have the most qualities which fit into either catagory. There are certain issue's that come into light before an election so the, "Liberals" or "Conservatives" jump up into action. This system of division through the media is dispicable in my opinion and the real agenda's of either party is decided before they move into office.

The whole system stinks and it's a wonder why people think they really do have a choice. I am not liberal or conservative and I will never be either.

I don't need a label to describe how I feel and if you ask me how I feel about abortion or gay marriage it is just a cop-out created by those parties to get a person to vote one way or the other.
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#197 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:34 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:I think a lot of this hate for Liberals has to do with convservative leadership saying that the dems are bad and just want higher taxes. I say that it was a party that lost it's power and was just trying smear tactics to stay alive.

I think people in this country needs to pay a little more to what is happening and a little less to what the media is saying is happening.

All "Conservative" or "Liberal" is, is a label given to those people who think they have the most qualities which fit into either catagory. There are certain issue's that come into light before an election so the, "Liberals" or "Conservatives" jump up into action. This system of division through the media is dispicable in my opinion and the real agenda's of either party is decided before they move into office.

The whole system stinks and it's a wonder why people think they really do have a choice. I am not liberal or conservative and I will never be either.

I don't need a label to describe how I feel and if you ask me how I feel about abortion or gay marriage it is just a cop-out created by those parties to get a person to vote one way or the other.


I'll just keep it simple, but...

:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

...EXACTLY!

I think this post should be required reading for all (including our politicians and those who label all sides as "liberal", "conservative", negative, positive, or whatever).

I've personally never been aligned entirely with either "side", either. Also, I think the labeling of both "liberal" and "conservative" and yada, yada, yada is really short-sighted, to be truthful. It is very controversial of what really defines such "categories", and is mostly a personal matter of the individual. I personally like only a certain few candidates at all levels, including both some Democrat and some Republican ones.

I, too, also despise the negative ads from both sides. Not only are they not concise, they are often not very specific, factual, nor present anything close to the truths on any issues, regardless of what "candidate" or "side" they are representing. I think the political ads just foster more hatred and labeling and not any real knowledge of the issues at hand. They need to go.

This is all I will say on this equation, but I really think it will need to be considered. Kudos to South for compiling a thoughtful, balanced, and very decisive post. Any critique or praising of my post or the previous one will be allowed, because this is all I have to say.

Back to the issue at hand...
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#198 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:47 pm

Let us remember that most Presidents don't even have complete control over the Congress like Bush has for 6 years. Clinton dealt with a Republican House for 6 of his 8 years as well as Reagan having a Democratic Congress throughout his terms, and many others throughout history. A lot of times it's better that way...
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#199 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:35 pm

The AP just called for Webb to win the VA Senate race.
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#200 Postby Stephanie » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:47 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:I think a lot of this hate for Liberals has to do with convservative leadership saying that the dems are bad and just want higher taxes. I say that it was a party that lost it's power and was just trying smear tactics to stay alive.

I think people in this country needs to pay a little more to what is happening and a little less to what the media is saying is happening.

All "Conservative" or "Liberal" is, is a label given to those people who think they have the most qualities which fit into either catagory. There are certain issue's that come into light before an election so the, "Liberals" or "Conservatives" jump up into action. This system of division through the media is dispicable in my opinion and the real agenda's of either party is decided before they move into office.

The whole system stinks and it's a wonder why people think they really do have a choice. I am not liberal or conservative and I will never be either.

I don't need a label to describe how I feel and if you ask me how I feel about abortion or gay marriage it is just a cop-out created by those parties to get a person to vote one way or the other.


I couldn't agree with you more and I can't stand labels. We wonder why there's so much division in our country now and that's because our government is divided into two ways of thought when there's so many shades of gray inbetween. I think labels are insulting and do nothing but provoke arguments. I also resent being stuffed into a specific label because I may think one way or another. I'm an individual with my own thoughts and beliefs, thank you very much. If someone else is comfortable having someone else telling them what they are or aren't, then that's alright too.

I don't necessary blame "the media" for the labels. "The media" is a tool that is used by EVERYONE to express their thoughts. Unfortunately, since ad time is so expensive, labels are now the "flavor of the month" in order to get a message across quickly and cheaply.
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