EF5 Tornado levels Greensburg Kansas.
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This is very very sad. The one photo in the thread looks to EF5 damage. Definitely resembles Barneveld, WI 1984. I can't believe the potential is their for a repeat event.
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I knew this was going to be all over the news like this. I have not seen that much destruction in many years of tracking tornadoes. This most likely was our first F5 tornado in 8 years...however the Wikipedia article is saying a EF4 tornado and the source was from a french Canadian website. I don't know what that's about but I think this was a the first EF5 tornado. I don't even know if the NWS has released any reports yet on this.
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Cyclenall wrote:I knew this was going to be all over the news like this. I have not seen that much destruction in many years of tracking tornadoes. This most likely was our first F5 tornado in 8 years...however the Wikipedia article is saying a EF4 tornado and the source was from a french Canadian website. I don't know what that's about but I think this was a the first EF5 tornado. I don't even know if the NWS has released any reports yet on this.
It is a preliminary rating from what I understand. It may very well be EF5 when all is said and done.
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It remains to be seen whether any of the established "Damage Indicators" will be enough to earn this an EF5 rating. Judging from the footage on The Weather Channel and CNN, it seems as if at least in some areas of Greensburg the walls of the houses and businesses were left intact, and the town is still littered with debris. I was under the impression that a signature of an (E)F5 tornado involved "sweeping the debris clean," i.e. no debris piles remaining, just structural foundations. In scenes from Bridge Creek and Moore, all the structures are completely gone and debris has been blown to the perimeter of the tornado path.
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From what I have seen on Fox news today and some of the other pics on the inet right now, it appears to me that this will be an high EF4. As devastated as Greensburg is, and it is beyond my comprehension even though I have seen the photos, there were too many walls still standing and still too much debris right in the area for it to be classified EF5. However if there are roads scoured out similar to the grass referred to earlier it could well recieve that rating. We, of course, await the official survey and their assessment.
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TORNADO WARNING
KSC097-060045-
/O.NEW.KDDC.TO.W.0044.070506T0000Z-070506T0045Z/
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DODGE CITY KS
700 PM CDT SAT MAY 5 2007
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN DODGE CITY HAS ISSUED A
* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
EASTERN KIOWA COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS.
* UNTIL 745 PM CDT
* AT 658 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 13 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF HAVILAND...OR 9 MILES NORTH OF WILMORE...MOVING
NORTHEAST AT 20 MPH.
* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
HAVILAND...
WELLSFORD...
RURAL RESIDENCES OF EASTERN KIOWA COUNTY.
THIS INCLUDES HIGHWAY 54 BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 115 AND 124.
WHEN A TORNADO WARNING IS ISSUED BASED ON DOPPLER RADAR...IT MEANS
THAT STRONG ROTATION HAS BEEN DETECTED IN THE STORM. A TORNADO MAY
ALREADY BE ON THE GROUND...OR IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP SHORTLY. IF YOU
ARE IN THE PATH OF THIS DANGEROUS STORM...MOVE INDOORS AND TO THE
LOWEST LEVEL OF THE BUILDING. STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS. IF DRIVING...DO
NOT SEEK SHELTER UNDER A HIGHWAY OVERPASS.
THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. IF IN A
MOBILE HOME...EVACUATE TO A SUBSTANTIAL STRUCTURE. GET UNDER A
WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS
AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN
INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO
COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.
A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM CDT SATURDAY EVENING
FOR WEST CENTRAL KANSAS. A TORNADO WATCH ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL
1000 PM CDT SATURDAY EVENING FOR SOUTHWESTERN KANSAS.
LAT...LON 3749 9933 3742 9922 3757 9901 3772 9906
$$
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KSC097-060045-
/O.NEW.KDDC.TO.W.0044.070506T0000Z-070506T0045Z/
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DODGE CITY KS
700 PM CDT SAT MAY 5 2007
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN DODGE CITY HAS ISSUED A
* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
EASTERN KIOWA COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS.
* UNTIL 745 PM CDT
* AT 658 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 13 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF HAVILAND...OR 9 MILES NORTH OF WILMORE...MOVING
NORTHEAST AT 20 MPH.
* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
HAVILAND...
WELLSFORD...
RURAL RESIDENCES OF EASTERN KIOWA COUNTY.
THIS INCLUDES HIGHWAY 54 BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 115 AND 124.
WHEN A TORNADO WARNING IS ISSUED BASED ON DOPPLER RADAR...IT MEANS
THAT STRONG ROTATION HAS BEEN DETECTED IN THE STORM. A TORNADO MAY
ALREADY BE ON THE GROUND...OR IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP SHORTLY. IF YOU
ARE IN THE PATH OF THIS DANGEROUS STORM...MOVE INDOORS AND TO THE
LOWEST LEVEL OF THE BUILDING. STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS. IF DRIVING...DO
NOT SEEK SHELTER UNDER A HIGHWAY OVERPASS.
THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. IF IN A
MOBILE HOME...EVACUATE TO A SUBSTANTIAL STRUCTURE. GET UNDER A
WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS
AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN
INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO
COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.
A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM CDT SATURDAY EVENING
FOR WEST CENTRAL KANSAS. A TORNADO WATCH ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL
1000 PM CDT SATURDAY EVENING FOR SOUTHWESTERN KANSAS.
LAT...LON 3749 9933 3742 9922 3757 9901 3772 9906
$$
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