IMD fails to issue warnings on Cyclone 03B

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Re: India fails to issue warnings for pakistan

#21 Postby senorpepr » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:46 pm

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Re: India fails to issue warnings for pakistan

#22 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:12 am

The quickscat on 03b had 45-50 knots. Which is proof for that system to have being stronger then the IMB shown. Also a banding eye started to form as it was nearing land...I've got a large amount of respect for the nhc, because they are right a lot.

Also I feel that the nations of the northern Indian should make a deal with the JTWC. That would be to make them the offical hurricane trackers for the northern Indian. But that is not my choice but the nations of the north Indian ocean.
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#23 Postby Chacor » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:58 am

No, that is the choice of the WMO. And you don't have all the facts. Do you know how the IMD does their storm analyses? Do you know how they determine wind speed in "weaker" cyclones (compared to Gonu, for example, where T-number was mentioned)? If you don't, while we all believe that this was >30 kt, you cannot say that the IMD didn't think about considering it to be over 30 kt. They must have, but decided to go with what their instincts told them. Nothing wrong with that.
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Re: India fails to issue warnings for pakistan

#24 Postby Hurricania » Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:57 am

That's tragic. I don't know if it has anything to do with politics or is indeed an error but anyway, it's a sad situation.
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Re: India fails to issue warnings for pakistan

#25 Postby P.K. » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:26 am

There have also been named systems warned by RSMC New Delhi that haven't had any warnings at all issued by the JTWC by the way.
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Re: India fails to issue warnings for pakistan

#26 Postby Chacor » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:37 am

P.K. wrote:There have also been named systems warned by RSMC New Delhi that haven't had any warnings at all issued by the JTWC by the way.


Yes, Ogni last year being the most recent.
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#27 Postby btangy » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:59 am

I think both 03B and now 04B have been handled poorly by the IMD. Either they have to train their meteorologists better to interpret satellite information or if the deficiencies continue, the WMO should transfer the responsibility of official forecasts in that region to La Reunion, which handles S Indian Ocean cyclones.
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#28 Postby Chacor » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:01 am

France has no tangible interest in the North Indian Ocean for them to bother, though.
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#29 Postby btangy » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:05 am

Chacor wrote:France has no tangible interest in the North Indian Ocean for them to bother, though.


Well, the NHC handles the E Pacific. I don't think CA really has serious threats to its coastline regularly.
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Re: India fails to issue warnings for pakistan

#30 Postby P.K. » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:42 am

The reason they cover the NE Pacific is that the USA's responsibility for forecasting covers a large part of the northern Pacific.

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#31 Postby Stephanie » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:52 am

I changed the title to be less accusary and political in tone.
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