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Eastern Atlantic lost its punch?

#1 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:24 pm

This has nothing to do with this year because its way to early but i've been thinking that I have not seen a CAT 2 or higher form East of Puerto Rico in a very long time. Im men correct me if im wrong but has there been a WEST BOUND storm stronger than CAT 2 since GEORGES of 98?(Im sure Luis can remember) I think this is part of the reason why were seeing so much land falling MAJOR Canes...Thier all reaching thier Max peaks right in our back yards..I think my point here is the E Atlantic has become an unfavorable area to support Huricanes..
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#2 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:26 pm

Uh... Ivan?
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#3 Postby Opal storm » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:26 pm

Wasn't Ivan a cat 3 out there?
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#4 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:27 pm

Cyclone1 wrote:Uh... Ivan?


He may have been but I would not remember that cause i had no power or cable for 3 weeks after frances..He cat 2 before PR?
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#5 Postby Opal storm » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:29 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
Cyclone1 wrote:Uh... Ivan?


He may have been but I would not remember that cause i had no power or cable for 3 weeks after frances..He cat 2 before PR?
Yes...he became a major hurricane well before he reached the Caribbean.
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#6 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:30 pm

Opal storm wrote:
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Cyclone1 wrote:Uh... Ivan?


He may have been but I would not remember that cause i had no power or cable for 3 weeks after frances..He cat 2 before PR?
Yes...he became a major hurricane well before he reached the Caribbean.


Ok got me on that one...so we have 1..
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Re: Eastern Atlantic lost its punch?

#7 Postby Hyperstorm » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:31 pm

There have been plenty...

Gert 1999
Alberto 2000
Isaac 2000
Fabian 2003
Isabel 2003
Frances 2004
Ivan 2004

...but I think I know where you are coming from. There hasn't been a strong hurricane just east of the islands since 2004.
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#8 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:32 pm

If your analysis is true, then we have to conclude that the Western Atlantic has become more favorable for tropical cyclone formation based on the past 3 seasons. Nonetheless, I don't think it's a pattern.
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Re: Eastern Atlantic lost its punch?

#9 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:33 pm

Hyperstorm wrote:There have been plenty...

Gert 1999
Alberto 2000
Isaac 2000
Fabian 2003
Isabel 2003
Frances 2004
Ivan 2004

...but I think I know where you are coming from. There hasn't been a strong hurricane just east of the islands since 2004.



And look at the mess(Disaster) we have had since..I see a pattern here..
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#10 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:35 pm

Looks like your statistics of Georges being the last one are way off.

Isaac 2000
Fabian 2003
Isabel 2003
Kate 2003
Frances 2004
Ivan 2004
Karl 2004
Helene 2006

I'm sure there are more since 1998.
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Re: Eastern Atlantic lost its punch?

#11 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:47 pm

Opal storm wrote:Wasn't Ivan a cat 3 out there?


Actually, Ivan was briefly a cat 4 out there before reaching the windwards...135mph
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Re: Eastern Atlantic lost its punch?

#12 Postby jinftl » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:21 pm

Is there a connection between the further west that systems develop in the atlantic and a higher likelihood of u.s. landfalls?

Seems like storms that develop in the far eastern atlantic are more influenced by troughs that can recurve them. The weaker systems seem to ride the ridges west more often.
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#13 Postby Category 5 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:21 pm

Helene Last year was a cat 3 out there.
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#14 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:24 pm

Kinda surprised we didn't have even one in 05.
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Re: Eastern Atlantic lost its punch?

#15 Postby Category 5 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:25 pm

jinftl wrote:Is there a connection between the further west that systems develop in the atlantic and a higher likelihood of u.s. landfalls?


That was part of the problem in 2005.

Cindy, Dennis, Emily, Katrina, and Rita all had cape verde origins, but by the time they were able to get going, they were ether

1. Far enough west to be cleared of anything to curve them out
2. Too far west where they'd run into land anyway
3. Far enough south to avoid being turned
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Re: Eastern Atlantic lost its punch?

#16 Postby jinftl » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:28 pm

Category 5 wrote:
jinftl wrote:Is there a connection between the further west that systems develop in the atlantic and a higher likelihood of u.s. landfalls?


That was part of the problem in 2005.

Cindy, Dennis, Emily, Katrina, and Rita all had cape verde origins, but by the time they were able to get going, they were ether

1. Far enough west to be cleared of anything to curve them out
2. Too far west where they'd run into land anyway
3. Far enough south to avoid being turned



That's true...i believe katrina & rita were right off the bahamas/south florida before they developed...that was part of the beginning of the problems with those storms menacing land.
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#17 Postby HurricaneRobert » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:54 pm

Cyclone1 wrote:Looks like your statistics of Georges being the last one are way off.

Isaac 2000
Fabian 2003
Isabel 2003
Kate 2003
Frances 2004
Ivan 2004
Karl 2004
Helene 2006

I'm sure there are more since 1998.


What about Gordon and Maria?
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Re: Eastern Atlantic lost its punch?

#18 Postby StormWarning1 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:12 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:This has nothing to do with this year because its way to early but i've been thinking that I have not seen a CAT 2 or higher form East of Puerto Rico in a very long time. Im men correct me if im wrong but has there been a WEST BOUND storm stronger than CAT 2 since GEORGES of 98?(Im sure Luis can remember) I think this is part of the reason why were seeing so much land falling MAJOR Canes...Thier all reaching thier Max peaks right in our back yards..I think my point here is the E Atlantic has become an unfavorable area to support Huricanes..

I suspect what you are asking is if there has been a storm stronger than CAT 2 moving across the Leeward or Windward Islands from the Central Atlantic. If so, there was Ivan in 2004, Georges in 1998 and 1995 had a couple. Hugo in 1989, Allen in 1980 and David in 1979. Then you have to go all the way back to 1966, Esther was a CAT 3. The late 50's and early 60's had several. The 1940's did not have any.
Their were a lot of hurricanes in the area between 1760 to 1790, a very active era, but no telling the intensity.
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Re: Eastern Atlantic lost its punch?

#19 Postby HUC » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:52 am

In 1966 there was Inez,a cat 3;Cleo in 1964 cat 3,Donna in 1960,cat4.....
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#20 Postby storms in NC » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:34 am

Floyd 1999 was a cat4 but was down graded before it got to NC. Fran was a cat 3 a weak 3 but a 3 when she hit NC. All the rest I have to look up. I am not awake yet.
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