Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
Very nice presentation on the last visible frame of the day

IR also shows the curved band and new ball of convection near the center


IR also shows the curved band and new ball of convection near the center

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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
This system is without a doubt on the edge of becoming seemingly a Subtropical Depression.
It will be a shame this system will likely be missed. It deserves to at least be the third system of the season if it only increases in organization marginally.
It will be a shame this system will likely be missed. It deserves to at least be the third system of the season if it only increases in organization marginally.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT MON JUL 30 2007
...SPECIAL FEATURE...
A 1009 MB LOW IS CENTERED ABOUT 200 MILES NNW OF BERMUDA AND IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE MOVING TO THE NNE OR NE OVER THE NEXT DAY
OR TWO BEFORE MERGING WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ON WEDNESDAY.
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLE ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE WITHIN
120 NM OF LINE FROM 28N68W E OF BERMUDA ALONG 32N63W TO 39N67W.
ALTHOUGH THE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A
TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MERGES WITH THE FRONTAL ZONE.
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT MON JUL 30 2007
...SPECIAL FEATURE...
A 1009 MB LOW IS CENTERED ABOUT 200 MILES NNW OF BERMUDA AND IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE MOVING TO THE NNE OR NE OVER THE NEXT DAY
OR TWO BEFORE MERGING WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ON WEDNESDAY.
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLE ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE WITHIN
120 NM OF LINE FROM 28N68W E OF BERMUDA ALONG 32N63W TO 39N67W.
ALTHOUGH THE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A
TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MERGES WITH THE FRONTAL ZONE.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
I don't understand how on the heck this could be missed? This thing is screaming out to be upgraded big time.
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WindRunner wrote:Oh trust me, it's been noticed all day. If we are ever going to get advisories on this system, it will be at 11pm. Other than that . . . well, I think it would need an eye like the unnamed TS last year to get any attention beyond the next 12 hours . . .
The NHC seems to be making a pact to get at least one PSA Storm every year from 2005 on.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
clfenwi wrote:TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT MON JUL 30 2007
...SPECIAL FEATURE...
A 1009 MB LOW IS CENTERED ABOUT 200 MILES NNW OF BERMUDA AND IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE MOVING TO THE NNE OR NE OVER THE NEXT DAY
OR TWO BEFORE MERGING WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ON WEDNESDAY.
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLE ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE WITHIN
120 NM OF LINE FROM 28N68W E OF BERMUDA ALONG 32N63W TO 39N67W.
ALTHOUGH THE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A
TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MERGES WITH THE FRONTAL ZONE.
Wow, this is like the earliest time I have seen the NHC come out with their 8 PM TW disco, forecaster must be in a hurry to eat its dinner tonight, j/k
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NDG wrote:Wow, this is like the earliest time I have seen the NHC come out with their 8 PM TW disco, forecaster must be in a hurry to eat its dinner tonight, j/k
They should be using this additional time to write a STDS, imho.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic
NDG wrote:clfenwi wrote:TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT MON JUL 30 2007
...SPECIAL FEATURE...
A 1009 MB LOW IS CENTERED ABOUT 200 MILES NNW OF BERMUDA AND IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE MOVING TO THE NNE OR NE OVER THE NEXT DAY
OR TWO BEFORE MERGING WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ON WEDNESDAY.
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLE ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE WITHIN
120 NM OF LINE FROM 28N68W E OF BERMUDA ALONG 32N63W TO 39N67W.
ALTHOUGH THE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A
TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MERGES WITH THE FRONTAL ZONE.
Wow, this is like the earliest time I have seen the NHC come out with their 8 PM TW disco, forecaster must be in a hurry to eat its dinner tonight, j/k
I fully believe that the nhc only has part of one eye on the atlatnic right now. Because if they where awake there is no way any expert could miss a fully devleoped cyclone. But I could be wrong. In that looks like a copy in paste.
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The only issue here, Matt, is its nature. Yes, it is a fully developed cyclone. It formed by way of a baroclinic zone ahead of/on the south side of the last east coast front . . . and, for a good while, appeared to be attatched to that front - which is now dying, and a good argument could be made for claiming the front has dissappated entirely . . . which is what the official surface analysis seems to agree with (http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/sfc/90fwbg.gif). As to whether that's completely correct is, like I said, debatable, but it certainly looks good.
That leaves the core structure which, according to several phase-base diagrams from various models (with the expected variance in strengths), is marginally subtropical at best right now . . .
Tack on to that the fact that the winds are probably just under gale force, and you've got yourself a subtropical depression for now . . . not exactly something the NHC is going to be eager to start advisories on when it won't be affecting land . . .
That leaves the core structure which, according to several phase-base diagrams from various models (with the expected variance in strengths), is marginally subtropical at best right now . . .
Tack on to that the fact that the winds are probably just under gale force, and you've got yourself a subtropical depression for now . . . not exactly something the NHC is going to be eager to start advisories on when it won't be affecting land . . .
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Guys i just went to wunderground and saw this.
http://www.weatherunderground.com/tropi ... _region=at
now they could just be drunk and put that up there.
http://www.weatherunderground.com/tropi ... _region=at
now they could just be drunk and put that up there.
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