Invest 98L in Western Atlantic

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#461 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:52 pm

Convection wrapping now..Were looking at Chantal people..

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html
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#462 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:54 pm

Your right. Come on NHC. Call it!
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#463 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:55 pm

They might with an 8pm special advisory.
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#464 Postby Meso » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:56 pm

If it can keep wrapping around,may well see it named or be given TD status before long.. And there were people saying "Nothing worth looking at for a few weeks". Will be interesting to see what the tropics are looking like when I awake.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic

#465 Postby Jam151 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:14 pm

Very nice presentation on the last visible frame of the day

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IR also shows the curved band and new ball of convection near the center

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#466 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:15 pm

This system is without a doubt on the edge of becoming seemingly a Subtropical Depression.


It will be a shame this system will likely be missed. It deserves to at least be the third system of the season if it only increases in organization marginally.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic

#467 Postby clfenwi » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:15 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT MON JUL 30 2007

...SPECIAL FEATURE...
A 1009 MB LOW IS CENTERED ABOUT 200 MILES NNW OF BERMUDA AND IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE MOVING TO THE NNE OR NE OVER THE NEXT DAY
OR TWO BEFORE MERGING WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ON WEDNESDAY.
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLE ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE WITHIN
120 NM OF LINE FROM 28N68W E OF BERMUDA ALONG 32N63W TO 39N67W.
ALTHOUGH THE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A
TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MERGES WITH THE FRONTAL ZONE.
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#468 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:16 pm

Latest and last visible:

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#469 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:16 pm

Hmm, I wonder if it'll get named tonight at 11.
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#470 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:18 pm

I don't understand how on the heck this could be missed? This thing is screaming out to be upgraded big time.
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#471 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:19 pm

Oh trust me, it's been noticed all day. If we are ever going to get advisories on this system, it will be at 11pm. Other than that . . . well, I think it would need an eye like the unnamed TS last year to get any attention beyond the next 12 hours . . .
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#472 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:20 pm

WindRunner wrote:Oh trust me, it's been noticed all day. If we are ever going to get advisories on this system, it will be at 11pm. Other than that . . . well, I think it would need an eye like the unnamed TS last year to get any attention beyond the next 12 hours . . .


The NHC seems to be making a pact to get at least one PSA Storm every year from 2005 on.
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic

#473 Postby NDG » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:20 pm

clfenwi wrote:TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT MON JUL 30 2007

...SPECIAL FEATURE...
A 1009 MB LOW IS CENTERED ABOUT 200 MILES NNW OF BERMUDA AND IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE MOVING TO THE NNE OR NE OVER THE NEXT DAY
OR TWO BEFORE MERGING WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ON WEDNESDAY.
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLE ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE WITHIN
120 NM OF LINE FROM 28N68W E OF BERMUDA ALONG 32N63W TO 39N67W.
ALTHOUGH THE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A
TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MERGES WITH THE FRONTAL ZONE.


Wow, this is like the earliest time I have seen the NHC come out with their 8 PM TW disco, forecaster must be in a hurry to eat its dinner tonight, j/k
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Re: Invest 98L in Western Atlantic

#474 Postby Jam151 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:23 pm

NDG wrote:Wow, this is like the earliest time I have seen the NHC come out with their 8 PM TW disco, forecaster must be in a hurry to eat its dinner tonight, j/k


They should be using this additional time to write a STDS, imho.
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#475 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:25 pm

NDG wrote:
clfenwi wrote:TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT MON JUL 30 2007

...SPECIAL FEATURE...
A 1009 MB LOW IS CENTERED ABOUT 200 MILES NNW OF BERMUDA AND IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE MOVING TO THE NNE OR NE OVER THE NEXT DAY
OR TWO BEFORE MERGING WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ON WEDNESDAY.
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLE ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE WITHIN
120 NM OF LINE FROM 28N68W E OF BERMUDA ALONG 32N63W TO 39N67W.
ALTHOUGH THE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A
TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MERGES WITH THE FRONTAL ZONE.


Wow, this is like the earliest time I have seen the NHC come out with their 8 PM TW disco, forecaster must be in a hurry to eat its dinner tonight, j/k




I fully believe that the nhc only has part of one eye on the atlatnic right now. Because if they where awake there is no way any expert could miss a fully devleoped cyclone. But I could be wrong. In that looks like a copy in paste.
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#476 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:31 pm

I keep mashing F5 on the NRL site waiting to see 03L.NONAME or 03L.CHANTAL
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#477 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:33 pm

RL3AO wrote:I keep mashing F5 on the NRL site waiting to see 03L.NONAME or 03L.CHANTAL

Me too, lol.
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#478 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:35 pm

The only issue here, Matt, is its nature. Yes, it is a fully developed cyclone. It formed by way of a baroclinic zone ahead of/on the south side of the last east coast front . . . and, for a good while, appeared to be attatched to that front - which is now dying, and a good argument could be made for claiming the front has dissappated entirely . . . which is what the official surface analysis seems to agree with (http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/sfc/90fwbg.gif). As to whether that's completely correct is, like I said, debatable, but it certainly looks good.
That leaves the core structure which, according to several phase-base diagrams from various models (with the expected variance in strengths), is marginally subtropical at best right now . . .

Tack on to that the fact that the winds are probably just under gale force, and you've got yourself a subtropical depression for now . . . not exactly something the NHC is going to be eager to start advisories on when it won't be affecting land . . .
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#479 Postby MusicCityMan » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:44 pm

Maybe the NHC needs to bring back Max Mayfield or Bob Sheets to wake everybody up lol..

On a more serious note.. It does look impressive.. Hope it forms, so we can cross another name off the list.. even if its a harmless fish system
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#480 Postby punkyg » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:45 pm

Guys i just went to wunderground and saw this.

http://www.weatherunderground.com/tropi ... _region=at

now they could just be drunk and put that up there.
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