Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#201 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:42 am

Chacor wrote:
Weatherfreak14 wrote:so they are going to fly into it today?


Tomorrow.


which will probably be canceled.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#202 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:42 am

Weatherfreak14 wrote:so they are going to fly into it today?


Tomorrow at 18Z, but I'd say, in my uneducated opinion, that there is a 60% chance they cancle the flight tomorrow morning.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#203 Postby Windsurfer_NYC » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:43 am

wxman57 wrote:Persistence is the key. It needs persistent convection for an LLC to develop. Hasn't happened yet, not happening today. The real trial period will be the next day or two. Could easily go "POOF" like the wave ahead of it. What? Don't see that one? It's just south of eastern Cuba. We've tracked it from Africa. Completely free of convection all across the Caribbean. Perhaps it sacrificed its moisture for 99L. ;-)


Doesn't 99L already have an LLC? As per NHC's 8:05 TWD

1010 MB LOW NEAR 10N50W POSSIBLY SPAWNED BY THE RE-LOCATED
TROPICAL WAVE ALONG 58W WAS LOCATED ABOUT 650 NM E OF THE
WINDWARD ISLANDS IS FAIRLY WELL ORGANIZED WITH A BAND OF
SCATTERED MODERATE TO STRONG CONVECTION DEVELOPING WITHIN
120-150 NM OF THE WELL DEFINED LOW LEVEL CENTER. THIS SYSTEM IS
IN A FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTAL FOR DEVELOPMENT AND COULD BECOME A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#204 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:43 am

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Weatherfreak14 wrote:so they are going to fly into it today?


Tomorrow at 18Z, but I'd say, in my uneducated opinion, that there is a 60% chance they cancle the flight tomorrow morning.


I saw that RL3AO had already posted pretty much the same thing, but I gave probabilities.
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#205 Postby skysummit » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:44 am

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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#206 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:46 am

RL3AO wrote:
Chacor wrote:
Weatherfreak14 wrote:so they are going to fly into it today?


Tomorrow.


which will probably be canceled.



I agree...especially with gasoline going for $3 plus
a gallon. :lol:
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#207 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:52 am

Windsurfer_NYC wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Persistence is the key. It needs persistent convection for an LLC to develop. Hasn't happened yet, not happening today. The real trial period will be the next day or two. Could easily go "POOF" like the wave ahead of it. What? Don't see that one? It's just south of eastern Cuba. We've tracked it from Africa. Completely free of convection all across the Caribbean. Perhaps it sacrificed its moisture for 99L. ;-)


Doesn't 99L already have an LLC? As per NHC's 8:05 TWD

1010 MB LOW NEAR 10N50W POSSIBLY SPAWNED BY THE RE-LOCATED
TROPICAL WAVE ALONG 58W WAS LOCATED ABOUT 650 NM E OF THE
WINDWARD ISLANDS IS FAIRLY WELL ORGANIZED WITH A BAND OF
SCATTERED MODERATE TO STRONG CONVECTION DEVELOPING WITHIN
120-150 NM OF THE WELL DEFINED LOW LEVEL CENTER. THIS SYSTEM IS
IN A FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTAL FOR DEVELOPMENT AND COULD BECOME A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.


By "develop", I'm meaning increase in organization. There may be a weak transitory LLC associated with 99L.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#208 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:53 am

Stormcenter wrote:I agree...especially with gasoline going for $3 plus
a gallon. :lol:


I think jet fuel is more like 5 or 6 dollars a gallon.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#209 Postby Sjones » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:07 am

A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE IS
CENTERED ABOUT 600 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS AND
IS MOVING WESTWARD AROUND 10 TO 15 MPH. ALTHOUGH THIS SYSTEM HAS
BECOME LESS ORGANIZED OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS...IT STILL HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS.


Think we have a fighter on our hands people!
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#210 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:08 am

Convection still hanging on a bit to the north, maybe a new center, just maybe.
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#211 Postby dwg71 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:09 am

I think if nothing refires by this evening you can stick a fork in 99L...next 90L any guesses?
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#212 Postby CaneCharmer » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:16 am

IMHO, It looks to me like 99L is a fighter. It appears that the center is attempting to recirculate a little to the northeast. Anyone else agree? Still early in the season, I know, but if somehow 99L makes it north of the islands, things will get interesting. I also like the wave that rolled off the coast. :wink:
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#213 Postby Tenspeed » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:20 am

Go away little 99L, and stay away from the gulf!
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#214 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:23 am

CaneCharmer wrote:IMHO, It looks to me like 99L is a fighter. It appears that the center is attempting to recirculate a little to the northeast. Anyone else agree? Still early in the season, I know, but if somehow 99L makes it north of the islands, things will get interesting. I also like the wave that rolled off the coast. :wink:


They are all fighters but sometimes that is not enough.

I'm still sticking with a 20% development chance into a TS or more.
It wouldn't take much to make it a TD.
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#215 Postby CaneCharmer » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:32 am

What else does it need? We've got great SST's, low shear ahead, a little LLC, for starters. I say if the "poof " factor doesn't come in, we have Dean on the way. 8-)
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#216 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:34 am

Sjones wrote:A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE IS
CENTERED ABOUT 600 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS AND
IS MOVING WESTWARD AROUND 10 TO 15 MPH. ALTHOUGH THIS SYSTEM HAS
BECOME LESS ORGANIZED OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS...IT STILL HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS.


Think we have a fighter on our hands people!


If this becomes TD#4,let me help the naysayers wipe the egg off their faces :lol: If it doesn't,you can do the same for me.
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#217 Postby jrod » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:40 am

The convection hasn't been able to sustain itself, or it would already be a TD imo. I am expecting the convection to refire this evening, and only time will tell if it can refire and sustain itself.
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#218 Postby dwg71 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:41 am

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12

The overall structure looks worse now than at any other point since being declared an invest. Convection is gone and its lost its rotation. I will lead the way and say its dead. Flame if you wish, crow for dinner???...I've eaten worse. 8-)
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Re: Invest 99L East of Windwards #3

#219 Postby Brent » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:47 am

I'm not impressed... and I'm ONCE AGAIN tired of disappointing invests. Is it too much to ask for to have a storm to develop with no dry air or shear? :roll:

I'm not declaring this dead though, just don't see anything happening for a couple of days.
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#220 Postby jrod » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:50 am

The dvorak still shows some spin. I am going to predict it will refire before 2300EDT tonight. Im guessing right now the blob to the south of it is 'robbing' energy from the invest.
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