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#201 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:34 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:And when the pattern changes...things will explode
especailly given the heat contents in the caribbean
so folks get ready for a wild ride

I agree completely. :eek:
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#202 Postby WeatherWiseGuy » Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:20 am

I had remembered seeing this thread back near the middle of July. My question is: Did this change indeed occur or are we still waiting. My guess, from observation, is that the change in the tropics was not as pronounced as many expected. Thoughts?
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#203 Postby WeatherWiseGuy » Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:32 pm

Nobody wants to talk about it?
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#204 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:46 pm

Hasn't changed yet. It's still early August, which is usually just as inactive as late July. Mid-August, things should ramp up.
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#205 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:55 pm

Change is gradual. The bermuda high and ridge is building
in slowly across the atlantic.
Things will gradually become more
favorable and then things should get very
active by mid to especially late august, we are
in for some strong activity.
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#206 Postby jinftl » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:35 pm

Interesting:


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
229 PM EDT SUN AUG 5 2007

.DISCUSSION...

EXTENDED...LITTLE CHANGE INDICATED TO LARGE SCALE PATTERN WITH
BLOCKING RIDGE NR THE LOWER MS VALLEY AND SFC RIDGE ACROSS
CENTRAL/SOUTH FL SAT. LATEST GFS SHOWS A DECENT TROPICAL WAVE
MOVING THROUGH THE EASTERLIES ACROSS BAHAMAS NEXT SUN. PRESENCE OF
A FRONTAL TROUGH AS WELL JUST NORTH OF AREA POINTS TOWARD A BREAK
IN PATTERN EARLY NEXT WEEK AND CONFIDENCE IS LOW THIS FAR OUT
ANYWAY. AT ANY RATE WL PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT THE EASTERLIES AS
THE UPSTREAM SOURCE OF FUTURE WEATHER CONSIDERING THE SEASON AND
STRENGTH OF MID OCEAN RIDGE
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#207 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:38 pm

Look forward to the sea breeze, finally!!
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#208 Postby ronjon » Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:17 pm

18z GFS Model for entertainment purposes.

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Re: Signs of change from global models

#209 Postby El Nino » Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:22 pm

D16, I won't be worried for the moment.
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#210 Postby flwxwatcher » Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:25 pm

The 12Z EURO and the 18Z GFS both show this system. Its along way off but we are heading into the meat of the season.. lets see if this pans out

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 7080512!!/

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _240.shtml
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#211 Postby Brent » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:57 pm

ronjon wrote:18z GFS Model for entertainment purposes.

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I go back to college on the 20th, so I'm expecting a major U.S. threat around that date! :lol:
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#212 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:05 pm

Yeah it's kind of crazy looking, lets see if the models continue to show this system consecutively for the next few days.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/18/index_ten_l_loop.shtml
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#213 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:56 pm

When viewing computer models everyone should keep in mind this fact:

Even if these long range systems do form, they hardly ever go in real life where the first several runs send them.
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#214 Postby Meso » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:51 am

And here's the 06z of it
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It's a long tracker..the GFS is showing the low developing in 6 days..Oh well,another wait and see..

Like Hybrid said though,it changes a lot from run to run,even over the past two you can see that the 18z had a ridge to the north and the 06z has a trough.

And as predictable the 12z has taken a 180 degree on it
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But alas,the area that the GFS was developing in previous runs the cmc shows the same thing the GFS was showing at the same place and time
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#215 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:19 pm

18Z GFS for Entertainment purposes.

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Re: Signs of change from global models

#216 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:16 pm

Theme is that the ridge is establishing and that
the waves will start spinning up in the next 5-10 days
likely.
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#217 Postby Meso » Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:44 am

Hey... guys :P
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#218 Postby skysummit » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:48 am

Another for fun....but isn't this like 3 runs in a row now showing something at 2 weeks? It moves off the coast in 102 hours and has it near South Florida @ 384.

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Re: Signs of change from global models

#219 Postby hial2 » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:52 am

8/23...one day before the anniversary of you-know-who...It will never happen,though
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Re: Signs of change from global models

#220 Postby TheShrimper » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:56 am

Lord, lets hope not. That run depicted is pretty scary.
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