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#1661 Postby storms in NC » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:09 pm

I thought He was slowing down. now 18 better than 21 that is for sure.

INITIAL MOTION OF DEAN IS 265 DEGREES AT 18 KT...A BIT SLOWER THAN
THE LAST ADVISORY.
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1662 Postby Beach0612 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:10 pm

Looks like its going to go right over my head here :roll:
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#1663 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:11 pm

I dont speculate on landfalls this far in advance... except maybe by saying I favor from Martinique south
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#1664 Postby KBBOCA » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:12 pm

The current track has shifted south by about two islands in the Lesser Antilles. Before it was Dominica and then St. Croix and PR under the gun. Now it looks to be aiming more at Martinique (as a Cat 1, which is better than this morning) and then headed to Hispanola (Dominican Rep. / Haiti). Hispanola could of course kill the thing, so over all, this is a better track in many ways than what we saw earlier.
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1665 Postby HurryKane » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:13 pm

jhamps10 wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:Wow...Didn't Camille go east of NOLA?


Yeah. made landfall somewhere near Biloxi. Camille, first storm to still be a TD in Illinois IIRC.


Pass Christian, to be exact-ish.
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1666 Postby meteorologyman » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:14 pm

Is there any eddies out in the Atlantic, Caribbean, or Gulf, that we need to be concern of, that's one of the reasons Katrina became a monster in 2005
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean - Global Models

#1667 Postby jimvb » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:14 pm

I can get ECMWF. It shows Dean to be a 4 - hitting southern Florida, then the panhandle of Florida and Mobile area.
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#1668 Postby jhamps10 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:15 pm

meteorologyman wrote:Is there any eddies out in the Atlantic, Caribbean, or Gulf, that we need to be concern of, that's one of the reasons Katrina became a monster in 2005


Yeah in the Gulf, about in the same areas as in 05, only a bit larger, and warmer too. Eddy goes almost to the coast.

Atlantic, or caribbean I don't know.
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#1669 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:17 pm

10,000 people can also be killed if this strikes Hispaniola as a major, especially if it goes across Port Au Prince, Haiti (or any part of Haiti for that matter)
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#1670 Postby x-y-no » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:20 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:10,000 people can also be killed if this strikes Hispaniola as a major, especially if it goes across Port Au Prince, Haiti (or any part of Haiti for that matter)


Yes, a major would be a huge disaster for Haiti and the DR - lots of people there who are too poor to have any ability to protect themselves in such an event.
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#1671 Postby Scorpion » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:23 pm

Can't imagine what would happen if the WRF verified... 900 mb into Haiti? Most of the houses are quite flimsy.. they would be levelled without a doubt.
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1672 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:24 pm

jhamps10 wrote:
meteorologyman wrote:Is there any eddies out in the Atlantic, Caribbean, or Gulf, that we need to be concern of, that's one of the reasons Katrina became a monster in 2005


Yeah in the Gulf, about in the same areas as in 05, only a bit larger, and warmer too. Eddy goes almost to the coast.

Atlantic, or caribbean I don't know.
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#1673 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:24 pm

StormWarning1 wrote:
KFDM Meteorologist wrote:18Z GFS at 5:30 Central time.


4:30 Central


Working now...
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#1674 Postby jhamps10 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:24 pm

Scorpion wrote:Can't imagine what would happen if the WRF verified... 900 mb into Haiti? Most of the houses are quite flimsy.. they would be levelled without a doubt.


yeah, if it was a 900 into haiti, then we would have a disaster a lot worse than Katrina EVER was. But I look at this on the good side too, and forgive me for saying this, but a 900 mb hitting haiti would seriously hurt this thing, and would help the US.
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#1675 Postby KBBOCA » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:27 pm

I didn't mean for my comment about Hispaniola having the possibility of "killing" the storm / therefore a "better" track for the ConUS to in any way minimize the danger to those in Haiti / DR. I had friends who did relief work in Haiti following Jeanne, which was only a Cat1 and killed thousands. I know all too well how vulnerable Haiti and the DR are.

Apologies for sounding insensitive.
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1676 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:27 pm

Accuweather's Thinking...

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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1677 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:27 pm

18z firing up
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#1678 Postby storms in NC » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:28 pm

jhamps10 wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Can't imagine what would happen if the WRF verified... 900 mb into Haiti? Most of the houses are quite flimsy.. they would be levelled without a doubt.


yeah, if it was a 900 into haiti, then we would have a disaster a lot worse than Katrina EVER was. But I look at this on the good side too, and forgive me for saying this, but a 900 mb hitting haiti would seriously hurt this thing, and would help the US.


Haiti is not that big. For if a cat-3-5 would go over it would do nothing to the storm.JMO
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#1679 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:28 pm

18z firing up
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) Discussions,Analysis and Imagery

#1680 Postby jhamps10 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:29 pm

windstorm99 wrote:Accuweather's Thinking...

Image


looks awfully close to the 11AM forecast.

Sure looks like they made that on the fly using the 5PM position, and the 11AM forecast.
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