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Re: Tropical Depression DEAN: 10 PM p328,Discussions
Weak convection however. Dean still has some kick. What a demon.
We should do a review of our coverage of Dean. I must admit I got pulled into thinking Dean was going to Texas early on because of climatology. A system like this rarely landed south of Brownsville, so GFS' recurve runs made me think it was seeing a weakness. I averaged its error rate and figured Texas was certain. Wrong. Next, this storm wasn't as wide as we were thinking. It also wasn't as strong. We should have seen what Dean had when he gave us a measure south of Jamaica. Belize only got 70mph where I assumed it would get at least 100mph. Wrong. Some were shouting about Chetumal being leveled. Wrong. Dean missed about 20 miles north and the south side winds were not as strong as some were shouting.
In the NY Times yesterday was a picture of a small Mexican concrete house de-roofed and flipped on its side in the landfall area. The entire house flipped up on its side and open to sight from the missing roof.
We should do a review of our coverage of Dean. I must admit I got pulled into thinking Dean was going to Texas early on because of climatology. A system like this rarely landed south of Brownsville, so GFS' recurve runs made me think it was seeing a weakness. I averaged its error rate and figured Texas was certain. Wrong. Next, this storm wasn't as wide as we were thinking. It also wasn't as strong. We should have seen what Dean had when he gave us a measure south of Jamaica. Belize only got 70mph where I assumed it would get at least 100mph. Wrong. Some were shouting about Chetumal being leveled. Wrong. Dean missed about 20 miles north and the south side winds were not as strong as some were shouting.
In the NY Times yesterday was a picture of a small Mexican concrete house de-roofed and flipped on its side in the landfall area. The entire house flipped up on its side and open to sight from the missing roof.
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Re: Tropical Depression DEAN: 10 PM p328,Discussions
I agree with a bunch of your post. Climo says poleward, especially cat 4. It was hard to imagine Dean staying west for so long. The ridge was so strong. If here in Charlotte we see 104 degrees, that is a nasty ridge. I still would have bet Central Texas when Dean entered the Carib. Models will digest a lot of data from that one.
Did you hear about the unmanned drones to fly into hurricanes? Launching out of Key West. I am not sure whether they got into Dean or not. They can go under 1000 feet.
Did you hear about the unmanned drones to fly into hurricanes? Launching out of Key West. I am not sure whether they got into Dean or not. They can go under 1000 feet.
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Jamaica damage
I'm sure this was already talked about but I didn't have time to search. People over at Airliners.net are wondering if there was significant damage to Jamaica's main airport. Anyone know any details?
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Derek Ortt wrote:the aerosonde did not fly into Dean. Operations do not start for a few more days
Does anyone have a link to read more about this please?
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Re: DEAN -Threat Area -Yucatan Peninsula-Belize-Mainland Mexico
Reports of at least 8 dead in Mexico.
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Re: DEAN -Threat Area -Yucatan Peninsula-Belize-Mainland Mexico
HurricaneBill wrote:Reports of at least 8 dead in Mexico.
Is there a link to the report?
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Re: Tropical Depression DEAN: 10 PM p328,Discussions
Center burst upon arrival over water.
I think they need drones because I don't entirely trust that surface estimate.
I think they need drones because I don't entirely trust that surface estimate.
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Re: Pictures from rightside eyewall?
MGC wrote:Frankly, it looks like the Mississippi gulf coast after Katrina......MGC
My thoughts exactly it's the water but these guys did have the wind for many miles inland

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Re: Tropical Depression DEAN: 10 PM p328,Discussions
Aerosonde info (may be olde)
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/project2005/aerosonde.html
Interesting links and PPT
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/project2005/aerosonde.html
Interesting links and PPT
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Re: Jamaica damage
From Jeff Masters Blog @ Weatherunderground:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=763&tstamp=200708
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=763&tstamp=200708
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Re: Pictures from rightside eyewall?
Yeah, imagine if Dean hit the gulf coast(strengthening cat5) as opposed to katrina. Although Dean was weaker at peak by a little and reached its peak at landfall, and since it had been around for much longer than Katrina had, the surge could fairly close in size
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Andrew92 wrote:The end of a wild, wild storm. I just hope and pray that damage continues to be minimal due to hitting sparsely populated areas.
I've been holding up from doing this, but I can resist no more. Dean,yeah, you're pretty likely to get it after this season's over. Good riddance.
Godspeed be with the victims and the families of this hurricane, and may we do all we can to help clean the damage.
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First time in 22 months someone is going to the can...
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The 8 might have been announced on radio but all I had to do was check cnn.com or foxnews.com.
There's been 21 deaths the carribbean from dean and 4 in mexico according to cnn.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html
Fox is reporting 8 dead in mexico.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294407,00.html
There's been 21 deaths the carribbean from dean and 4 in mexico according to cnn.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html
Fox is reporting 8 dead in mexico.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294407,00.html
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Re: DEAN -Threat Area -Yucatan Peninsula-Belize-Mainland Mexico
Confirming: Unfortunately Mexican TV news have reported 9 deaths due to floods in the central parts of the Mexican Republic.
Desafortunadamente las noticias en la television mexicana han reportado 9 fallecimientos debido a las inundaciones en las partes centrales de la Republica Mexicana.
Desafortunadamente las noticias en la television mexicana han reportado 9 fallecimientos debido a las inundaciones en las partes centrales de la Republica Mexicana.
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Re: DEAN -Threat Area -Yucatan Peninsula-Belize-Mainland Mexico
The official number of casualties so far is 8, according to the federal government.
Wikipedia has 10. Hmmm...
Wikipedia has 10. Hmmm...
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