Replacing "Dean"

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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#61 Postby Coredesat » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:16 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:A system should never be retired unless it kills hundreds of people or causes tens of billions in damge. To many storms are being retired. The pics I've seen from Dean has not convinced me at all that he deserves retirement. We will see what he will do on this last landfall.

Dean hit a area that had only small number of people living there. In 90 percent of them where gone. He maybe a cat5 at landfall, but that does not or should not make it retirable. A storm like Katrina or Charley, Andrew should be the kinds of storms retired. Never Dean.


So only storms that hit the US as major hurricanes and cause damage there? Have you seen or heard the reports from Jamaica?
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#62 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:32 am

Derek said this system did less damage then Emily of 2005. For a system that was only 1 millibar weaker then Camile and Mitch at there peak; those people got very "lucky" on the Yucatan. It missed a city of 120+ thousand to the north. In most of the area the people where ordered out. Rita,Wilma,Katrina, even Mitch never hit land as strong as Dean. In yet he appears at 'least of the little I've seen' not enough to be retired. Believe me I'm happy no one died in the Yucatan, I think they did a very good(amazing) job in getting people to safety and should be a model for the united states to fellow in the future.

No I do not think that storms only have to hit the United states to be retired. But believe that not every hurricane should be retired. In there has been many a case that worst has occured. Every hurricane damage is going to be caused in some people are going to loss their lifes. That is sad but a fact. Hopefully we can work to limit that. But this caused less damage then Emily in Jamica and the Yucatan. We have to look at the pics and data then think is it retireable or not retireable. Erin killed 14 people in Texas I believe I read. In with heavy flooding, do you think we should retire him? I don't think so. Yes Dean caused a lot more damage, in fact in the billions. But we have a lot more billion+ hurricanes these days. Like 2 out of every 4 hurricanes that hit land will be one these days. Should we retire each one...The dollar amount they are based on is devauled pretty good since every year making the amount worth less. Meaning a katrina most like has 3-4 billion dollars added to its amount by today's standards already.

With this in mind its up in the air...We will see if Dean can be retired or not.
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#63 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:05 am

I fully expect Mexico to ask for its retirement. I would be suprized if they did not.
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#64 Postby weatherSnoop » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:53 am

FWIW, Dean is not through with Mexico, yet. He has weakened considerably, though he is aimed a a more populated area.
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#65 Postby jaxfladude » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:23 pm

Dolittle...
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#66 Postby HurricaneRobert » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:38 pm

I think there's been about $2 billion in damages.
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#67 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:45 am

Like I said every hurricane that hits land these days could come close to it.
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#68 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:12 pm

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#69 Postby JonathanBelles » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:14 pm

Hurricane Dude/Hurricane Dud!! :lol:
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#70 Postby jaxfladude » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:30 pm

DRUDGE
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#71 Postby Brent » Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:12 pm

jaxfladude wrote:DRUDGE


:sick: :sick: :sick:
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#72 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:58 pm

The DR has the most death by the feeder bands of this. Dean really is on the edge of going retired or not going that way.
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#73 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:04 pm

Wik says 3.8 billion dollar this storm caused. Still any powerful storm these days hitting the coast can cause billions in damage. So its still edgy.
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#74 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:19 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Emily_%282005%29

Here is Emily a cat5 that was not retired.
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#75 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:21 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Emily_%282005%29

Here is Emily a cat5 that was not retired.


Dean caused at least 6 times the damage Emily did.
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#76 Postby Brent » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:24 pm

Dean will be retired... there's basically four governments(that were affected directly) and I'm sure at least one will request it:

Martinique(France)
St. Lucia

I know it was only a Cat 2 there, but it still caused significant damage and deaths.

The more likely options are:

Jamaica or Mexico of course. I cannot see it not getting retired.
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#77 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:29 pm

The only country, IMO, with a legitimate claim to retire Dean would be France as this was a rare storm for Martinique. It is not often that any hurricane strikes Martinique (and France has Klaus retired for much less).

However, I personally would not retire the storm unlss new information becomes available
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#78 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:03 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:The only country, IMO, with a legitimate claim to retire Dean would be France as this was a rare storm for Martinique. It is not often that any hurricane strikes Martinique (and France has Klaus retired for much less).

However, I personally would not retire the storm unlss new information becomes available


Interest fact about Klaus, TS Marco formed, which caused it to weaken and partially spun it off.

Hurricane Klaus
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#79 Postby HurricaneRobert » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:16 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Fabian

Emily caused more damage than Fabian. Retirement is related more to politics than actual damage.
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Re: Replacing "Dean"

#80 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:57 pm

On the other hand in support of retirement...It did much more damage then Lili,Keith 2000,Iris that hit Belize. About as much as isabel on the outterbanks.
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