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#1641 Postby fci » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:28 am

Bane wrote:i think bams are relatively useless at mid latitudes, or that is what has been said iin the past.


Not being sarcastic here but I hear all the time that the BAMS are useless here and useless there.
When are they useful? :?:
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#1642 Postby x-y-no » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:30 am

fci wrote:
Bane wrote:i think bams are relatively useless at mid latitudes, or that is what has been said iin the past.


Not being sarcastic here but I hear all the time that the BAMS are useless here and useless there.
When are they useful? :?:


Deep tropics.
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#1643 Postby fci » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:34 am

miamicanes177 wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:Hmmm. Lots of JB and Accuweather bashing last night. JB in his post last night abandoned the Euro because it weakened 99l. He stood his ground last night and still declared a sub 970 hurricane at landfall, he stated that the conditions were there. He was not changing his predictions.

A bit stubborn as always, but he believes in what he says right or wrong and does admit when he's wrong.

The bashers are always ready to discredit him a the drop of a hat. Yet very slow to give credit if at all.

Me, I just think it's good to see someone stand thier ground in this day and age.

I'm thinking there's gonna be alot of crow served soon, maybe JB should serve it.
I agree. Accuweather is nailing this thing. They deserve high praise if their forecast verifies. Some professionals backed off their original idea of development based on what happened yesterday. Accuweather gave a forecast, not a nowcast. They had the foresight to see improving conditions when others were simply saying it was dieing. Major props to the Accuweather Meteorologist on 99L...or as they called it, "soon to be Gabrielle".


Please do me a favor.

When Accuweather flat out misses a call; crow just as loudly the other way.
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Personally, I suspect you would just disappear.......
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Re: Invest 99L: Off SE Coast-Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1644 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:35 am

07/1445 UTC 29.5N 69.6W T2.0/2.0 99L -- Atlantic Ocean


They updated the data at 14:45 UTC.
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#1645 Postby CronkPSU » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:35 am

Derek Ortt wrote:looks like I was too soon to question myself

The UL is getting out of the way and outflow is expanding

Figures this happens... I was planning to watch ND tomorrow night



you won't want to watch...ND is going to lose by 30 anyways
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#1646 Postby Bane » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:36 am

2.0 is usually enough for classification, isn't it?
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Re: Invest 99L: Off SE Coast-Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1647 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:36 am

cycloneye wrote:07/1445 UTC 29.5N 69.6W T2.0/2.0 99L -- Atlantic Ocean


They updated the data at 14:45 UTC.


That supports at least a depression anyday..
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Re: Invest 99L: Off SE Coast-Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1648 Postby seahawkjd » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:37 am

Ok we've all gone back and forth now on eating crow and all of that. But seriously what is going on with it now as far as the progress of its formation. Just want some analysis if anyone would be so kind.
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#1649 Postby miamicanes177 » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:37 am

fci wrote:Personally, I suspect you would just disappear.......
Why the personal attack? I would have no reason to disappear if Accuweather was wrong.
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#1650 Postby storms in NC » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:38 am

Well Derek you thinking it will stay off shore? I hope it will come in shore and give us some much needed rain. You can just about walk across the rivers here in east NC. Flooding I am not worried about at this time. it would have to rain a lot and I mean alot to flood here. If it is a cat 1 that is a bad Tstorm. Not worried over that. Just need it to RAIN from here up to Va.
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Re: Invest 99L: Off SE Coast-Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1651 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:39 am

That outflow boundary became a feeder band of sorts. Finally they moved the floater.

This thing is getting serious.

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#1652 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:39 am

miamicanes177 wrote:
fci wrote:Personally, I suspect you would just disappear.......
Why the personal attack? I would have no reason to disappear if Accuweather was wrong.


FCI you have been a smarta$$ all week...i ignored you comment to me but now its getting redic...
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#1653 Postby fci » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:39 am

Derek Ortt wrote:looks like I was too soon to question myself

The UL is getting out of the way and outflow is expanding

Figures this happens... I was planning to watch ND tomorrow night


How did the extraction of the dunce cap go?
Hope it wasn't too painful.
I have been chomping on the crow all morning and wish it were a bit more tender.
I guess more ketchup and some BBQ sauce will help.

As for ND, judging how they played against Ga Tech, you're probably better off not watching anyway..... :cheesy:
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#1654 Postby Chacor » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:40 am

DVORAK NUMBERS AREN'T EVERYTHING.

The NHC will NOT upgrade based on a single set of Dvorak numbers without good reason. SAB is only one of two agencies who do Dvorak fixes, and as we saw with Chantal the NHC does often ignore SAB's fixes.
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#1655 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:42 am

Chacor wrote:DVORAK NUMBERS AREN'T EVERYTHING.

The NHC will NOT upgrade based on a single set of Dvorak numbers without good reason. SAB is only one of two agencies who do Dvorak fixes, and as we saw with Chantal the NHC does often ignore SAB's fixes.


They will wait for the reports from recon before doing anything.
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Re: Invest 99L: Off SE Coast-Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1656 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:42 am

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... ive_0.html

Turn off all images except 279-282.

Really impressive! That's less than an hour.
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#1657 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:43 am

Given the steering patterns are gonna change 99L's drifting motion I expect if the Recon finds good we should have a TD/TS at 5.

The NHC is going to start considering the threat of landfall, unless this thing mysteriously falls apart it should be classified.
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#1658 Postby fci » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:43 am

miamicanes177 wrote:
fci wrote:Personally, I suspect you would just disappear.......
Why the personal attack? I would have no reason to disappear if Accuweather was wrong.

Sorry if it came out personal. I was kind of kidding.
Seriously, it seems JB and Accu are so polarizing.
People either trash them or praise and exalt them; rarely seems anyone is objective when it comes to them; either all wrong or all right.
Apologies if you are not one of the "right all the time" ones.
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Re: Invest 99L: Off SE Coast-Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1659 Postby cpdaman » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:43 am

tolakram wrote:That outflow boundary became a feeder band of sorts. Finally they moved the floater.

This thing is getting serious.

Image


no dvorak isn't everything but the satelite presentation, ship reports, and proximity to land

leads one to believe this will be named (prob. jump right to tropical storm) and before people start their weekends
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#1660 Postby punkyg » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:43 am

So which direction is 99L going and wheres the trough suppose to turn this north?
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