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Re: T.S.HUMBERTO (GOM): Discussion & Images:7 PM CDT page 36

#981 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:58 pm

Well radar presentation still looks good and as for the motion well it
still seems to be Northeastward. IMO

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid= ... 1&loop=yes
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Re: T.S.HUMBERTO (GOM): Discussion & Images:7 PM CDT page 36

#982 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:59 pm

It looks to me that the center hasnt moved a whole lot, if anything a NE movement.
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#983 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:00 pm

Might be an illusion, but it does look to have more of a due N motion in the last few radar frames..

http://www.weatherunderground.com/radar ... rainsnow=0
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Re: T.S.HUMBERTO (GOM): Discussion & Images:7 PM CDT page 36

#984 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:02 pm

Weatherfreak14 wrote:Is it just me or has it really taken a wooble to the north or NNW on GRX radar.


It's not you, I see the NE wobble ended 30 minutes ago and it moved west of north the past 30 minutes.

I’m looking at radar loops in GARP and measuring 1hr 2, and 3 hr movement.

Current position 28.9N/94.7W at 8:50pm.

I get a 1 hr loop toward about 4 degrees at 7 kts

2 hr movement toward 13 degrees at 6.5 kts

3 hr movement toward 13 degrees at 5.5 kts

So eastern Bolivar Peninsula looks like the landfall point. 31nm to Bolivar at 7 kts = just over 4 hours, around 1am for landfall, maybe as late as 2am.
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Re: T.S.HUMBERTO (GOM): Discussion & Images:7 PM CDT page 36

#985 Postby miamicanes177 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:03 pm

wxman57 wrote:I think predicting a LA landfall is quite a bit of a stretch. More like eastern Bolivar Peninsula (just east of Galveston Bay) early tomorrow morning. No significant change in strength prior to landfall, except maybe a little weaker with the dry air entrainment.
I doubt it will be weaker. I agree with Derek Ortt's forecast for landfall between 55kt-60kts, with a chance of hurricane status if it stays over water long enough.
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Re: T.S.HUMBERTO (GOM): Discussion & Images:7 PM CDT page 36

#986 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:04 pm

Just made another measurement from 01Z to 02Z and I get 359 degrees at 6.5 kts.
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#987 Postby Bailey1777 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:05 pm

It looks weaker already.IMO dry air is really starting to wrap into the core now.
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Re: T.S.HUMBERTO (GOM): Discussion & Images:7 PM CDT page 36

#988 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:05 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:I think predicting a LA landfall is quite a bit of a stretch. More like eastern Bolivar Peninsula (just east of Galveston Bay) early tomorrow morning. No significant change in strength prior to landfall, except maybe a little weaker with the dry air entrainment.
I doubt it will be weaker. I agree with Derek Ortt's forecast for landfall between 55kt-60kts, with a chance of hurricane status if it stays over water long enough.


We were thinking the same thing earlier (possibly stronger) but with dry air moving in and the weakening squalls it doesn't look like it will strengthen in the 4 hours prior to landfall.
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#989 Postby Bailey1777 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:09 pm

yes it is, you can clearly see it on radar. It is wrapping dry air all the way in!
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#990 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:10 pm

We can go back and forth on this all night but eventually the radars
and satellites will tell the story as to where he is moving and "at the moment" to me it doesn't
look like it will be Houston or Galveston.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid= ... 1&loop=yes
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#991 Postby jwayne » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:10 pm

[quote="unctarheel1209"]Dry air isn't moving in the core.[/quote]


it's eroded the entire southern part of "eyewall" away.
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#992 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:12 pm

jwayne wrote:
unctarheel1209 wrote:Dry air isn't moving in the core.



it's eroded the entire southern part of "eyewall" away.


http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12
It still looks pretty healthy on satellite. IMO
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#993 Postby Andrew92 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:12 pm

OK, I concede that Humberto will probably not become a hurricane before making landfall in a few hours. However, this still was a close call; had it been able to develop further out in the open waters of the GOM, this likely would have been real bigtime trouble.

Now let's just pray for the best and that there is only minimal to no flooding associated with Humberto. Also, that some moisture reaches into Alabama and Tennessee, where it's very dry and they need the rain.

-Andrew92
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Re: T.S.HUMBERTO (GOM): Discussion & Images:7 PM CDT page 36

#994 Postby windstorm99 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:13 pm

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#995 Postby greg_kfdm_tv » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:14 pm

unctarheel1209 wrote:Dry air isn't moving in the core.
The whole southwestern quadrant is collapsing due to dry air entrainment.
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#996 Postby KatDaddy » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:17 pm

Thankfully winding down for Galveston County. I am setting at 1.61" with a max gust of 22mph from the NE. Just enough wind and rain with very fast moving clouds to know thats enough.
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#997 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:21 pm

this kind of reminds me of Alberto 1994 with tis radar signature
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Re: T.S.HUMBERTO (GOM): Discussion & Images:7 PM CDT page 36

#998 Postby mattpetre » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:22 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Well, maybe Joe Bastardi's prediction yesterday morning of sustained TS winds in Texas might also be wrong, if the center can hang a little further East.

Although after moving NE, looks like maybe a wobble closer to due North. Tricky, because on HGX radar something sort of weird looking happening near the center.


His prediction may be wrong, but he was more correct on this storm eventually forming than 90% of the folks here. I give high praise to Bastardi on this one...
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#999 Postby Buck » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:24 pm

Speaking of Alberto (1994)... it should have been the first TS to have been retired (followed by Allison in 2001), in my opinion. Sure it didn't cause $5 billion in damages... but it still killed 30 people and left a lasting mark on Alabama and Georgia.
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Re: T.S.HUMBERTO (GOM): Discussion & Images:7 PM CDT page 36

#1000 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:24 pm

Kudos to Joe Bastardi- nailed the formation of gabrielle
as well as humberto. His skills deserve respect. :wink: 8-)
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