INVEST 92L: Bahamas : Gone fron NRL

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#381 Postby windlyweathergirl » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:51 pm

if it hits cuban coast...then Happy Trails!
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Re: INVEST 92L : Near Bahamas : Discussions & Images

#382 Postby Recurve » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:51 pm

Only care right now about whether this comes together and what might drive intensification. We could have just a wave drifting past. But there's always that Andros-to-Craig Key nightmare intensification to remember. Seems only the small ones do that, or whatever causes it keeps em small and winds em up very fast.

Not too worried the way it's looking now, but it's pretty close for comfort if it get's going.

Tracks SW from the Bahamas are good for the Keys but seem a bit odd. What's the confidence in that high setup?
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#383 Postby Steve » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:51 pm

LM*AO

Back to bed...
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#384 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:52 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I am expecting a TC as large as the WPAC typhoons based upon the initial vortex size and model solutions.

if this gets into the GOM, it will probably take up most of the GOM
That would truely be crazy if it played out. A storm of that size would mean that I could feel effects here in Houston even with the storm being hundreds of miles away..even to my east. :eek: Should be quite interesting compared to all these small GOM systems we have seen recently.

BTW..Gilbert is a good example of a large GOM storm. It likely will never be as strong as Gilbert was, but if Derek is correct then the overall size could be comparable:

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#385 Postby windlyweathergirl » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:53 pm

no...won't be THAT large
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#386 Postby americanrebel » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:54 pm

According to the 0z it will be going into the NW Caribbean.
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#387 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:54 pm

windlyweathergirl wrote:no...won't be THAT large


What is your reasoning about not being large?
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#388 Postby 'CaneFreak » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:56 pm

boy gotta love the one-liners.....geez...kids these days...ok folks...if you want to post something it needs to have some scientific credibility so that others don't get false information because some people come to this site for real information...not trying to play mod here but for once could we back up our statements? Thanks. Meteorology is a science so why? is a common question asked when you get the one-liners going.
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#389 Postby americanrebel » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:57 pm

I would like to know why windly thinks that also. A lot of the models and stuff in the climate says that this could be a very large intense storm in about 3-4 days and still have a few days until it makes landfall where ever it does.
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#390 Postby bocadude86 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:58 pm

Starting to think I could get some nasty weather from this, if its ends up being so large
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#391 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:00 pm

I am getting tired of hearing all about climo.....
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Re: INVEST 92L : Near Bahamas : Discussions & Images

#392 Postby robert_88 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:01 pm

Well...there is the possibility that 92L might never get going and be another all bark no biter like just about everything else so far this season. There is no LLC established with this system and it is very disorganized at the moment. The deeper almost black reds that look really dark in some of those t-storms are real impressive on IR tonight. Looks like it is just going take awhile due to the size of this system. You would think that 92L has more of an opportunity to become something more significant than the other invests with a track the models are showing. One thing for sure is this storm does have the potential to be one the most interesting tracks this season. Guess we will all know more by Saturday if this looks to be a real deal or not.
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Re: INVEST 92L : Models Thread=00z GFS Rolling in at page 6

#393 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:01 pm

For the members that came in recent minutes to Talking Tropics forum,the 00z GFS run is being posted in a post at page 6.But if anyone has a comment about the run,you can post while I post the 00z run.
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#394 Postby Recurve » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:02 pm

americanrebel wrote:I would like to know why windly thinks that also. A lot of the models and stuff in the climate says that this could be a very large intense storm in about 3-4 days and still have a few days until it makes landfall where ever it does.


Of course storms can do that but this isn't a storm yet, so very large and intense in 3-4 days is optomistic IMO, or pessimistic, depending on where you are.
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Re: INVEST 92L : Near Bahamas : Discussions & Images

#395 Postby 'CaneFreak » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:04 pm

robert_88 wrote:Well...there is the possibility that 92L might never get going and be another all bark no biter like just about everything else so far this season. There is no LLC established with this system and it is very disorganized at the moment. The deeper almost black reds that look really dark in some of those t-storms are real impressive tonight. Looks like it is just going take awhile due to the size of this system. You would think that 92L has more of an opportunity to become something more significant than the other invests with a track the models are showing. This storm does have the potential to be one the most interesting tracks this season. Guess we will all know more by Saturday if this looks to be a real deal or not.


It may not take that long rob...I mean..its disorganized now...but you just wait until tomorrow...that center needs to center itself under the anticyclone in the central bahamas right now and you will be surprised what 24 to 48 hours can do in the tropics..trust me...you'll see. Personally, I think this could be the big event we have been waiting for all season. There is too much energy piled into one area for nothing to develop whatsoever with light UL shear and all. It just does not bode well if you dont want a strong TC striking land somewhere.
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#396 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:05 pm

so far (as of 90 hrs) the cyclone is a tad further south than the 18z run and that front that was over TX during the 18z run now seems to be much, much slower in the 00z run.
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#397 Postby americanrebel » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:05 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-wv.html

Looking at this looks like the LLC might be around 25.5N and 72.5W.

Just might be decieving but it looks like the LLC is forming there.
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#398 Postby 'CaneFreak » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:08 pm

americanrebel wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-wv.html

Looking at this looks like the LLC might be around 25.5N and 72.5W.

Just might be decieving but it looks like the LLC is forming there.



Yep..i agree...northern side is trying to gain some convection...see...what did I tell you? That LLC is trying to find the best environment to intensify and consolidate in and it is finding it closer to the CENTER of the anticyclone!!! Now your getting it!!! :wink:

Ad lib: The tropics WANT to get rid of this extra energy and it does so through building of hurricanes. That is how it does that when the ul conditions are right of course.
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Re: INVEST 92L : Models Thread=00z GFS Rolling in at page 6

#399 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:10 pm

Is in the Yucatan Channel,Crunch time is comming now to see if the front grabs it in this 00z run.
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#400 Postby americanrebel » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:12 pm

So this system is starting to get its organization together.
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