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Derek Ortt wrote:based upon the latest microwave, a WNW track has begun
Or did the center merely relocate under the convection?
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Derek Ortt wrote:based upon the latest microwave, a WNW track has begun
very quick to make that call though Derek given we've only seen a 6hr movement that would support WNW, certainly has moved WNW recently but I'd like to see it last a good bit longer before making that call, esp given that eddy/eye feature has been heading west looking at the Vis.loops over the last 2-3hrs again.
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Derek Ortt wrote:based upon the latest microwave, a WNW track has begun
Sorry Derek but I tend to agree with Aric on this one....Frank2 noticed that WNW bob this morning as well....but watch the loops very carefully...it is still moving west..center just reformed further to the north...
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic
another image just came in..
clearly showing the center.. and an eye feature trying to form.. with a band extending NE which is indicative of a organizing hurricane..

clearly showing the center.. and an eye feature trying to form.. with a band extending NE which is indicative of a organizing hurricane..

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I still believe this is just a wobble or relocation, but I wouldn't rule out that the storm has briefly taken on a WNW motion either. Either way, even if Bertha is heading slightly north of west right now, it does not appear that this motion will last. Based upon the latest Atlantic steering currents, it looks likely that Bertha will bend back toward the west over the next 24-48 hours...
500-850mb steering currents (for storms with a 990-1000mb pressure): http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... 8dlm2.html
400-850mb steering currents (for storms with a 970-990mb pressure): http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... 8dlm3.html
500-850mb steering currents (for storms with a 990-1000mb pressure): http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... 8dlm2.html
400-850mb steering currents (for storms with a 970-990mb pressure): http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... 8dlm3.html
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It shouldn't be all that surprising its formed an eye feature it seems because its just gone back over +26C waters and they are only getting warmer from now on, shear also isn't that high over the center.
I wonder if we are going to get a special because the 45kts estimated by NHC earlier is looking too low now.
I wonder if we are going to get a special because the 45kts estimated by NHC earlier is looking too low now.
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Wow, I leave for about half an hour to find that Bertha has an eye feature and a center relocation. This will probably adjust the track by quite alot.
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HURAKAN wrote:The new GFDL is calling for Bertha to reach 30°N at 61.6°W. Right now I don't see that happening.

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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic
Aric Dunn wrote:another image just came in..
clearly showing the center.. and an eye feature trying to form.. with a band extending NE which is indicative of a organizing hurricane..
Well, I take back my "illusion" comment - that center position looks reasonably close to what you pointed out earlier.
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KWT wrote:It shouldn't be all that surprising its formed an eye feature it seems because its just gone back over +26C waters and they are only getting warmer from now on, shear also isn't that high over the center.
I wonder if we are going to get a special because the 45kts estimated by NHC earlier is looking too low now.
Given that there's no imminent threat to land, I expect they'll wait until the normal advisory time.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic
The expansion and "banding" shape of colder cloud tops near the center (as seen on IR imagery) can be another indicator of a developing inner core or a banding type eye feature. That is a common signature with intensifying tropical cyclones that are "on their way" to a strong TS or hurricane. Currently, that is happening now on the TRMM scan and IR GOES imagery, with convection forming a slight "banding" shape near the center.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html
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RL3AO wrote:I'm thinking 55kts at 21z. Just a guess though.
And for the love of god, turn on NBC and watch Wimbledon Men's final. Its up there IMO for sporting event of the decade.
I know...it is CRAZY!..Nadal just 1 point away from winning but Federer wasnt having any of that...now 9 PM in England
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