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#2141 Postby jaxfladude » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:51 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:We can definitely eliminate a FL threat. I concur.

Whew for the season I hope.....
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#2142 Postby JonathanBelles » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:52 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:We can definitely eliminate a FL threat. I concur.


Ill agree with a 95% assurance.
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#2143 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:57 pm

I agree with the Felix-95 analogy. Anyone in Bermuda or the North American east coast from Savannah northward should be thinking of preparations.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2144 Postby americanrebel » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:02 pm

I hope you guys are right, but I see this being like Andrew was very against the rules and doing what she wants. I think every one along the East Coast from Key West to Martha's Vineyard needs to keep an eye on this one. If it does follow an Andrew line, I will have to keep an eye on it also.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2145 Postby gotoman38 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:09 pm

Looks like a good S shear to me - but she is strong IMO - Cat1? No.

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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2146 Postby MGC » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:10 pm

That last microwave image is showing some feederband starting to form. I would not be surprised if Bertha is a hurricane tomorrow morning......MGC
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2147 Postby gotoman38 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:23 pm

That last microwave image is showing some feederband starting to form. I would not be surprised if Bertha is a hurricane tomorrow morning......MGC


I can see that - if the center is 18.8N 49W. Good call IMO.

gotoman38 wrote:Looks like a good S shear to me - but she is strong IMO - Cat1? No.

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#2148 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:25 pm

americanrebel wrote:I hope you guys are right, but I see this being like Andrew was very against the rules and doing what she wants. I think every one along the East Coast from Key West to Martha's Vineyard needs to keep an eye on this one. If it does follow an Andrew line, I will have to keep an eye on it also.


storms do not do what they want. They follows basic laws of physics.

Andrew's westward turn was always anticpated. Now, the forward speed was poorly forecast, but th turn was captured correctly. Given the limited guidance avilable then, that was a very good forecast
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#2149 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:44 pm

The shear is back with the cloud tops on the north side screaming south to north. Don't expect this to become a hurricane until that is gone.
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#2150 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:45 pm

Eh.....I really am shocked.


This storm is NEVER going to hit Florida. Never. Get over it.


Let's move on.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2151 Postby kpost » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:47 pm

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Not that this is saying much, it's just a huge difference.
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#2152 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:47 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:Eh.....I really am shocked.


This storm is NEVER going to hit Florida. Never. Get over it.


Let's move on.



True, but if I were in NC, I would watch this very carefully.
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#2153 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:50 pm

I completely agree Matt. It's just disappointing to still see Florida Hype when it's about as possible as the Smog level in China going down for the Olympics.
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#2154 Postby UpTheCreek » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:02 am

Weatherfreak000 wrote:I completely agree Matt. It's just disappointing to still see Florida Hype when it's about as possible as the Smog level in China going down for the Olympics.


hehe, good one! :D
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#2155 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:10 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:The shear is back with the cloud tops on the north side screaming south to north. Don't expect this to become a hurricane until that is gone.


that's called the outflow
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2156 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:16 am

Derek Ortt wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:The shear is back with the cloud tops on the north side screaming south to north. Don't expect this to become a hurricane until that is gone.


that's called the outflow



Derek based on this shear map it is under 12-15 knots of southly to southwestly shear. That is not super favorable. On the other hand the shear out ahead of it is becoming more favorable, so the tutt is moving out.
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8shr.html
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#2157 Postby pojo » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:16 am

Plan of the Day
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000
NOUS42 KNHC 061715 AMD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1000 AM EDT SUN 06 JULY 2008
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 07/1100Z TO 08/1100Z JULY 2008
TCPOD NUMBER.....08-036

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK. (AMENDED)
A. POSSIBLE AIR FORCE FLIGHT ON TS BERTHA,
8/18Z, 20N 57W.
3. BEGIN 12 HRLY FIXES 9/12Z IF NECESSARY.

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.
SMR
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2158 Postby Brent » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:21 am

Derek Ortt wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:The shear is back with the cloud tops on the north side screaming south to north. Don't expect this to become a hurricane until that is gone.


that's called the outflow


:roflmao:

I'm sorry but I had to reply... best post ever. :P
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2159 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:25 am

Brent wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:The shear is back with the cloud tops on the north side screaming south to north. Don't expect this to become a hurricane until that is gone.


that's called the outflow


:roflmao:

I'm sorry but I had to reply... best post ever. :P


WOW, there is southwestly shear. Sure it is helping to form a "outflow" out of the north, but with the shear the system is dealing with, I just don't expect this system to strengthen much intil it lets up some.
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#2160 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:25 am

warm spot in the center... of the small CDO ..
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html
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