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#3001 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:48 pm

1989 had a small storm that went by the name of Hugo
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#3002 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:57 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:but 1997's 2 July hurricanes did not come from tropical waves



Future Hurricane Danny produced quite an impressive lightning show when it passed over my apartment in Lafayette, LA on its way to the Gulf. Local TV met Rob Perillo called that one as a possible tropical cyclone candidate the very next day.
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#3003 Postby NDG » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:05 pm

It looks like that Bertha is finally getting influenced by the Bermuda ridge as the weakness to her north keeps pushing east, it looks as if she has gone back to a WNW track the last couple of hours. Bermuda may not be out of the woods just yet if she is indeed going back on a WNW track for at least a day.
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#3004 Postby Gustywind » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:06 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:1989 had a small storm that went by the name of Hugo

Small why small Derek? :roll: explain please :?: :double:
Hope that won't forget that this small storm was second disaster in Guadeloupe after the enormous cane of 1928:eek:.
So we can't forget this small storm it's inked in ours live in Guadeloupe for sure, and the nightmare for most of the residents of the Leewards including Puerto Rico etc... :oops:
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#3005 Postby dwg71 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:08 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:July Cape Verde TCs usually mean an active CV season

Just look at 1989 and 1996 as examples



Dr. Gene Norman, the MIT educated replacement for Dr. Neil Frank on KHOU-TV 11, said last night that his analysis of years with July hurricanes since 1995 indicate an average of almost 16 named storms in a season, and considering what a dud 1997 turned out to be after a busy June and July, the rest of those seasons must have been impressive.


"Since 1995" way to small a sample size to make any coorelations. 97 was a dud, but 05 was just as much an anomoly.
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#3006 Postby Category 5 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:09 pm

Gustywind wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:1989 had a small storm that went by the name of Hugo

Small why small Derek? :roll: explain please :?: :double:
Hope that won't forget that this small storm was second disaster in Guadeloupe after the enormous cane of 1928:eek:.
So we can't forget this small storm it's inked in ours live in Guadeloupe for sure, and the nightmare for most of the residents of the Leewards including Puerto Rico etc... :oops:


He was being sarcastic. I'm sure Derek knows how devastating it was as do we all.
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#3007 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:09 pm

The NOAA Nesdis SSD floater won't update past 0945Z.
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#3008 Postby storms in NC » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:11 pm

wow. She is still out there and every one leaves. I readed the late 2 pages and it sounded like a funeral. It is still a Storm and any thing can happen. It maybe out in the sea doing it's thing but I don;t think she is done till she is gone ,poof ,Nada nothing. I guess cause it is out to sea no one cares.
If you go back to my post on Sat I think. I was the only one who called it to go to the right of Bermuda. Yes I was wishcastting for the rain. But I never changed from Bermuda. maybe we can get a home grown TD would be nice here.
It rained here and got 1/10 of a inch


The waters here a very warm here so any thing can't happen.
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#3009 Postby micktooth » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:21 pm

Fego wrote:A just saw (again) GLADIATOR with Russell Crowe, and it ocurred to me this: !Bertha!, we the ones who celebrate your birth, say goodbye!


"Are you not entertained!?"

Bertha is still very interesting, I'm not sure why so many people have abandoned ship. Could they be "closet people I disagree with"?
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#3010 Postby mutley » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:22 pm

NDG wrote:It looks like that Bertha is finally getting influenced by the Bermuda ridge as the weakness to her north keeps pushing east, it looks as if she has gone back to a WNW track the last couple of hours. Bermuda may not be out of the woods just yet if she is indeed going back on a WNW track for at least a day.

Looks that way to me too. I also wondered whether this interaction with the ridge contributed significantly to Bertha's disorganization today.
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#3011 Postby Fego » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:35 pm

micktooth wrote:
Fego wrote:A just saw (again) GLADIATOR with Russell Crowe, and it ocurred to me this: !Bertha!, we the ones who celebrate your birth, say goodbye!


"Are you not entertained!?"

Bertha is still very interesting, I'm not sure why so many people have abandoned ship. Could they be "closet people I disagree with"?


As a matter of fact, I'm in the ship. If I wish goodbye that doesn't mean that I'm not following 'her' development, etc. If somebody says that Bertha will hit some city, or in the contrary, that won't hit a mass land, you can be sure I won't jump into it arguing about motivations.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3012 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:36 pm

Down to 75 kts per ATCF:

AL, 02, 2008070818, , BEST, 0, 224N, 544W, 75, 980, HU, 64, NEQ, 25, 15, 15, 15, 1016, 200, 15, 0, 0,
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3013 Postby tolakram » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:43 pm

The floaters accessed from the NHC page aren't updating.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/products/tc_realtime/

This page is though.

Latest infrared shows some increase convection. Still looks to be under a ton of shear.

If it can survive then more heat content in 24 hours or so.

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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3014 Postby SkyDragon » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:43 pm

Wow! She is weakening very fast! :cold:
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#3015 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:44 pm

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Holding up right now.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3016 Postby alan1961 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:47 pm

not sure wether i'm seeing things but is the centre trying to pull a little west than the projected path?
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#3017 Postby OuterBanker » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:57 pm

Already an epitaph for Bertha?

All I can see is the Monty Python scene with Bertha screaming

" I'm not dead"
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#3018 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:04 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:but 1997's 2 July hurricanes did not come from tropical waves



Future Hurricane Danny produced quite an impressive lightning show when it passed over my apartment in Lafayette, LA on its way to the Gulf. Local TV met Rob Perillo called that one as a possible tropical cyclone candidate the very next day.


I remember that MCS/squall line very well. I believe it stretched from near New Orleans all the way to Lake Charles as it pushed south with tons of lightning and very strong winds...one of the most impressive squall line events I've ever seen. It never died out as it pushed into the gulf and by the next evening there was a circulation developing. Neat to know you remember it as well! I'm pretty sure Alicia formed in a similar manner. A truly memorable event and I don't think we've had a "home-grown" like that since.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3019 Postby tolakram » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:10 pm

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Shear may be dropping rapidly. I'm looking for signs of intensification again.

You know a button to add the disclaimer, or the disclaimer text showing somewhere on the Post a reply page would be helpful. :)
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#3020 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:13 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:
Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:but 1997's 2 July hurricanes did not come from tropical waves



Future Hurricane Danny produced quite an impressive lightning show when it passed over my apartment in Lafayette, LA on its way to the Gulf. Local TV met Rob Perillo called that one as a possible tropical cyclone candidate the very next day.


I remember that MCS/squall line very well. I believe it stretched from near New Orleans all the way to Lake Charles as it pushed south with tons of lightning and very strong winds...one of the most impressive squall line events I've ever seen. It never died out as it pushed into the gulf and by the next evening there was a circulation developing. Neat to know you remember it as well! I'm pretty sure Alicia formed in a similar manner. A truly memorable event and I don't think we've had a "home-grown" like that since.


You are correct. Alicia caught many by surprise.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/storm_w ... elim01.gif

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/storm_w ... elim02.gif
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