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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
FYI, on my GARP workstation, I just measured a 3 and 6-hr motion of Bertha.
3-hr - toward 310 deg. at 10.5 kts (1545Z-1845Z)
3-hr - toward 309 deg. at 10 kts (1845Z-2145Z)
6-hr - toward 309-310 deg. at a little over 10 kts
Still moving northwest at about the same speed all day. Most convection appears to be northeast of the center. I don't think a storm like this would qualify for a hurricane upgrade at this point.
3-hr - toward 310 deg. at 10.5 kts (1545Z-1845Z)
3-hr - toward 309 deg. at 10 kts (1845Z-2145Z)
6-hr - toward 309-310 deg. at a little over 10 kts
Still moving northwest at about the same speed all day. Most convection appears to be northeast of the center. I don't think a storm like this would qualify for a hurricane upgrade at this point.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
Code: Select all
ACE (104kt²) (Source) — Storm:
1 8.58 Bertha 2 0.37 Arthur
Total: 8.95
Bertha has the highest ACE in the Atlantic since Hurricane Félix, 2007.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
wxman57 wrote:FYI, on my GARP workstation, I just measured a 3 and 6-hr motion of Bertha.
3-hr - toward 310 deg. at 10.5 kts (1545Z-1845Z)
3-hr - toward 309 deg. at 10 kts (1845Z-2145Z)
6-hr - toward 309-310 deg. at a little over 10 kts
Still moving northwest at about the same speed all day. Most convection appears to be northeast of the center. I don't think a storm like this would qualify for a hurricane upgrade at this point.
i had 22.1 N 53.8 W at 1500Z and now 22.7 /55 at 2145 Z
which is more like 300 degrees i believe
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
Could Bertha skate more westerly if this ridge continues to build:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/wv-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/wv-l.jpg
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
18Z gfs calls for the storm to be very close to bermuda (which is a slight left shift) but we shall see if that is consistent.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
Checking out things today and I see two things. ULL to her left and a high to her right.
Can she just shoot between those and go out to sea? Or, is it still too early to tell?
Or, am I nuts? lol
Can she just shoot between those and go out to sea? Or, is it still too early to tell?
Or, am I nuts? lol
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
i would think if she strengthens she would shoot the gap but then again i don't know if the TUTT weakness is enough to move her at 55 longitude?
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
Will this be the set-up for most of this season(as it relates to Bertha), or is it any given tropical cyclone? ....
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
cpdaman wrote:i would think if she strengthens she would shoot the gap but then again i don't know if the TUTT weakness is enough to move her at 55 longitude?
So if she stays weak she can miss that?
Sorry for the dumb questions.

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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
cpdaman wrote:wxman57 wrote:FYI, on my GARP workstation, I just measured a 3 and 6-hr motion of Bertha.
3-hr - toward 310 deg. at 10.5 kts (1545Z-1845Z)
3-hr - toward 309 deg. at 10 kts (1845Z-2145Z)
6-hr - toward 309-310 deg. at a little over 10 kts
Still moving northwest at about the same speed all day. Most convection appears to be northeast of the center. I don't think a storm like this would qualify for a hurricane upgrade at this point.
i had 22.1 N 53.8 W at 1500Z and now 22.7 55 at 2145 Z
which is more like 300 degrees i believe
That 22.1N/53.8W for 15Z was a forecast position. I'm measuring the actual position by putting my cursor on the screen and identifying the LLC at 22.1N/54.1W at 15Z. 53.8W is east of the convective band around the center at 15Z. Better yet, here's a screen shot of my workstation with the cursor at the NHC forecast position of 22.1N/53.8W at 15Z with the 15Z satellite. The center is clearly visible west of the NHC forecast position.

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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
wxman would you think bertha would turn more Northward should she strengthen this evening, or is that tutt influence waning
also it appears she has gained an appendage on her far east side which stretches pretty far south along 50 W
also it appears she has gained an appendage on her far east side which stretches pretty far south along 50 W
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So is it still heading NW or is there any subtle bend back towards the WNW. I should say that Bermuda still needs to watch out as the models are starting to shift back to the west just a little bit, not by much granted but with a weaker storm there will be a little less poleward pull I'd guess towards the weakness.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
NHC loops working again:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html
and some red is coming back.

I find the water vapor loop shows structure changes quite well.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-wv.html
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html
and some red is coming back.

I find the water vapor loop shows structure changes quite well.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-wv.html
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
tolakram can you tell where the center is. is it on the south or south west side of convection?
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic
cpdaman wrote:tolakram can you tell where the center is. is it on the south or south west side of convection?
I assume it's on the west or south west side of the convection. I'm not very good at locating anything.

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