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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3921 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:01 am

weatherguru18 wrote:It would have to relocate a good ways north or take one heck of a jog to the nw to miss the yucatan. I'm not looking for that to happen.


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It wouldn't have to relocate very far to the north to spend a significantly less amount of time over land.
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#3922 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:02 am

honestly everyone .. i would not worry much about the Yucatan causing much harm to dolly ... she will only be over it for a very short time and is in the intensification portion of her life and the flat lands of the Yucatan wont do much.
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#3923 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:03 am

Chacor wrote:
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Chacor wrote:Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 26% is 2.1 times the sample mean(12.3%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 16% is 2.0 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 9% is 2.0 times the sample mean( 4.5%)


those are old .. whats the link


That's the 12z run. Those are the most recent.



link please?
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#3924 Postby bob rulz » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:03 am

HURAKAN wrote:Image


Wow, that's impressive!
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#3925 Postby weatherguru18 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:04 am

Aric Dunn wrote:honestly everyone .. i would not worry much about the Yucatan causing much harm to dolly ... she will only be over it for a very short time and is in the intensification portion of her life and the flat lands of the Yucatan wont do much.


Maybe over the Everglades. Folks, it's land. It certainly won't help her strengthen by any means.
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#3926 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:05 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Chacor wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:those are old .. whats the link


That's the 12z run. Those are the most recent.



link please?


ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/stext/ ... _ships.txt
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3927 Postby Sanibel » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:06 am

SW half is still too weak and unconvected.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3928 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:06 am

interesting to note the huge difference in the initialized location of the center ... when the 12z comes out for the global models its going to interesting since the initialized intensity and position are way different.. i imagine a decent northward shift in all there tracks..

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#3929 Postby kevin » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:07 am

weatherguru18 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:honestly everyone .. i would not worry much about the Yucatan causing much harm to dolly ... she will only be over it for a very short time and is in the intensification portion of her life and the flat lands of the Yucatan wont do much.


Maybe over the Everglades. Folks, it's land. It certainly won't help her strengthen by any means.


Its flat land with plenty of surface water on it. Not exactly the everglades but certainly not your typical piece of land. Its also moving at a very fast speed and not over the entire landmass, and surrounded on three sides by ocean.
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#3930 Postby Just Joshing You » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:08 am

Surface water means jack all when I'm pretty sure a Hurricane needs water to a depth of 50m or something like that.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3931 Postby Blown Away » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:08 am

Nice little burst of convection on the N side of Dolly's LLC. Very clear on the visible.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html
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#3932 Postby kevin » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:09 am

extradited wrote:Surface water means jack all when I'm pretty sure a Hurricane needs water to a depth of 50m or something like that.


Of course its not going to intensify. But the difference between a dry chunk of land and a tropical rainforest is pretty substantial when it comes to thunderstorms.
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#3933 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:10 am

kevin wrote:
weatherguru18 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:honestly everyone .. i would not worry much about the Yucatan causing much harm to dolly ... she will only be over it for a very short time and is in the intensification portion of her life and the flat lands of the Yucatan wont do much.


Maybe over the Everglades. Folks, it's land. It certainly won't help her strengthen by any means.


Its flat land with plenty of surface water on it. Not exactly the everglades but certainly not your typical piece of land. Its also moving at a very fast speed and not over the entire landmass, and surrounded on three sides by ocean.



wow i was not talking about it intensifying over land ... geez i was stating that systems during this phase of evolution have a tendency not to be affected by land as much. take Katrina as it crossed florida
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#3934 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:11 am

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I don't think the yucatans going to do much to the storm. Its moving fast, it doesn't really even have everything in place (convection over the LLC) - good outflow, etc. A spit of land a foot or two above sea level won't hurt it all that much.
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#3935 Postby weatherguru18 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:11 am

extradited wrote:Surface water means jack all when I'm pretty sure a Hurricane needs water to a depth of 50m or something like that.


More like 100-150 meters.
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#3936 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:11 am

nice burst of convection right over the center by the way.. we may see it approach hurricane strength sooner rather than later..
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3937 Postby Sanibel » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:12 am

New burst near the center SW of the black IR center this am.


Good for those who called for development.
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#3938 Postby Category 5 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:12 am

Aric Dunn wrote:honestly everyone .. i would not worry much about the Yucatan causing much harm to dolly ... she will only be over it for a very short time and is in the intensification portion of her life and the flat lands of the Yucatan wont do much.


It will just weaken her. :wink:
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3939 Postby Brent » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:12 am

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#3940 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:14 am

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I think the Yucatan will weaken it from a strong TS/weak Cat 1 to a minimal TS, but it will explode once again over the Gulf. Bret was a mere wave there and went all the way up to 125 kt. I am in good agreement with the NHC on the track but not intensity.
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