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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#101 Postby tailgater » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:42 pm

Cloud tops warming, we could have some poofage if it doesn't start refiring T-storms.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-wv.html
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#102 Postby k4sdi » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:43 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:
LaBreeze wrote:Which is most reliable to most of you out there, BAMM, BAMD, or LBAR?


My personal favorite is the EXTRAP model.

We really need an emoticon for sarcasm,.,,,,
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#103 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:44 pm

Actually, the EXTRAP is an ideal, unmatched verification tool.

EXTRAP - Extrapolation of current movement
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#104 Postby LaBreeze » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:44 pm

I'm with you on this one, MiamaiensisWx. Westward seems to be, beacause this High is so strong. Unbelieveable how hot it is here along the coast. 99 is my reading here - not sure what the heat index is - for sure 105 or better.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#105 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:46 pm

tailgater wrote:Cloud tops warming, we could have some poofage if it doesn't start refiring T-storms.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-wv.html


WV imagery isn't reflective of "poofage." ;)

It's still maintaining and building rather decent convection.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#106 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:46 pm

tailgater wrote:Cloud tops warming, we could have some poofage if it doesn't start refiring T-storms.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-wv.html


I was waiting on that to happen
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#107 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:46 pm

k4sdi wrote:
SouthFloridawx wrote:
LaBreeze wrote:Which is most reliable to most of you out there, BAMM, BAMD, or LBAR?


My personal favorite is the EXTRAP model.

We really need an emoticon for sarcasm,.,,,,

Oh yeah... sorry... :jk:
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#108 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:50 pm

perk wrote: AFM what's your preliminary take on the future of this system.



My very preliminary take is a strong TS(60mph+)/Cat 1 into the central TX coast....near Matagorda...as far south as Rockport and as far north as GLS.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#109 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:51 pm

I agree, the High to the north just doesn't seem to budge much.
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#110 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:52 pm

Everyone along the Gulf Coast from the FL Panhandle westward should stay up to date on this developing low. The westward movement clear to TX. is not written in Stone, heck the models didn't get a good handle on Dolly till she was a TS. A weakness in the ridge could change everything.
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#111 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:52 pm

This year has certainly been a "banner season" in terms of TC strikes/threats for Texas.

There will be no weakness at the mid/upper levels over the next several days as well.
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#112 Postby paintplaye » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:53 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
perk wrote: AFM what's your preliminary take on the future of this system.



My very preliminary take is a strong TS(60mph+)/Cat 1 into the central TX coast....near Matagorda...as far south as Rockport and as far north as GLS.


If this thing hits matagorda and it is stronger than a strong TS/cat1 then Houston could be in some trouble.
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#113 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:55 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:This year has certainly been a "banner season" in terms of TC strikes/threats for Texas.




I agree. If a strong low rider formed like 90L in tracked across the lower caribbean it would more then likely not recurve to the north like Ivan did, but go for Texas this year as a major. Of course this is just a wishcast and has nothing in truth. This one is worth watching but I would give it another 24 hours, with soild support of a LLC before I would start forecasting a strong tropical storm or hurricanes. But I've learned to lean towards the low end of things.
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#114 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:55 pm

paintplaye wrote:If this thing hits matagorda and it is stronger than a strong TS/cat1 then Houston could be in some trouble.

Actually, I believe that is incorrect. It depends on the wind radii's size and aereal extent (instead of intensity/strength).

Let's wait for a defined LLC...
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#115 Postby Diva » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:56 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
My very preliminary take is a strong TS(60mph+)/Cat 1 into the central TX coast....near Matagorda...as far south as Rockport and as far north as GLS.


So you think this unbearably hot high pressure will stay in place and protect us up here in on the TX/LA border from a direct hit? I'd love some clouds and rain though.
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#116 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:57 pm

Slightly breezy out of the SW/WSW with the clouds moving down from the NNE in Central Lafourche. The winds aren't really indicative of anything, but there's an obvious "interuption in the flow" when the clouds are moving in from the North or NNE and it's not outflow in the summatime.

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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#117 Postby weatherrabbit_tx » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:58 pm

me too d, hope this thing gives us more rain then dolly did north of 10 or should I say north of hwy 105 :D
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#118 Postby GeneratorPower » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:59 pm

GFS takes it into Port Arthur, TX.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

EDIT: Closer inspection looks like between Galveston, TX and Port Arthur, TX. GFS keeps it weak.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#119 Postby stevetampa33614 » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:59 pm

taking on a Coma shape, cyclogenesis is probably occurring. Looks really good on enhanced rainow. Suprised models were picking up on this last week already but werent sure of the size or movement. Quicksat back yet?

Bouys had been reading consistent 15+ kt wind speeds. But with no closed LLC. No dice.

SSD showing winter storm warning over biloxi :cold: :lol:
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#120 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:59 pm

Looking at WV, it has got dry air to its North, but heaviest storms embedded in better mid/upper moisture, so until it reaches a certain strength, it won't pull the dry air in in appreciable quantity.

Upper low near Isle of Youth looks to help more than hurt, setting up a nice outflow jet that should more than make up for whatever shear it might be inducing.

Finally, 91L seems to be building a hint of an anticyclone aloft, with a bit of the more humid air pushing back into the dry air.



However, if Joe Bastardi says 1000 mb is his upper limit, well, I don't know that I have ever seen him underforecast a tropical system.


He is on a family road trip, with some business, so he may be spending less than his usual time analyzing weather, so I'd pay close attention to the pro-mets, and especially TPC.
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