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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2741 Postby Bluefrog » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:38 pm

double crap .. yeah ron ...thanks ... not making us feel good at all
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#2742 Postby JonathanBelles » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:39 pm

Get the kids away from my tracking chart!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2743 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:41 pm

It's a couple of wavy lines ...
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#2744 Postby Jason_B » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:42 pm

I'll believe it when she makes that WNW turn.
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#2745 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:44 pm

GFS ensembles aren't great for tropical cyclones they simple lack the resolution, they run at only half the resolution of the first 180hrs of the GFS op runs and thus see a weaker system.
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#2746 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:47 pm

KWT wrote:GFS ensembles aren't great for tropical cyclones they simple lack the resolution, they run at only half the resolution of the first 180hrs of the GFS op runs and thus see a weaker system.


Yes but, you throw in the EURO, UK, e.t.c... and you pay more and more attention if they want to head a Hurricane your way.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2747 Postby caneman » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:48 pm

Well, we just got our first good amount of rain from this little witch after making us sweat it out. Back door hurricanes love Tampa Bay even though the front on ones don't so I say bring it on.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2748 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:49 pm

18Z GFS at 36 hrs - stalled off Melbourne

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#2749 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:56 pm

Ok, here is my take....While a track back into the gom is plausable...I don't think its likely (ATTT) Why?? Actually look at the GFS and NAM...They BOTH keep FAY on the mainland of FL for nearly 24 more hours...(Until 18z tomorrow) 00z euro is not bad. 12z euro, I am throwing out because it initialized her down by key west....Just my op. folks.
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#2750 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:57 pm

60 hrs heading west.

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2751 Postby TexasSam » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:02 pm

ronjon wrote:GFS Ensemble Plot - Westward Bound - I'd say so.

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Is that a real map? or is someone just pulling my leg?
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#2752 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:02 pm

So in other words Deltadog you think that because this is moving faster its clearly more latched onto the upper trough then the GFS progs as its moving faster.

Still its getting harder to totally ignore the track.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2753 Postby GeneratorPower » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:03 pm

tolakram wrote:It's a couple of wavy lines ...


Oh, that's funny if you ever saw Ghostbusters.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2754 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:03 pm

72 hrs - West further near FL west coast.

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2755 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:03 pm

ronjon wrote:GFS Ensemble Plot - Westward Bound - I'd say so.

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LOL :lol: :eek:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2756 Postby jinftl » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:08 pm

do the paths that stop in the middle of the Gulf imply dissipation?

ronjon wrote:GFS Ensemble Plot - Westward Bound - I'd say so.

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#2757 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:08 pm

Yes, think about it this way...(IT is obviously possible that it goes back into the gom) but, GFS and NAM sit this in this very spot its in NOW, for another 24 hours...Do yall think that it is really going to do that?
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#2758 Postby txwatcher91 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:12 pm

deltadog03 wrote:Yes, think about it this way...(IT is obviously possible that it goes back into the gom) but, GFS and NAM sit this in this very spot its in NOW, for another 24 hours...Do yall think that it is really going to do that?


One potential problem with the GFS is it initializes the pressure around 1002-1004mb, hard to tell exactly what it is but is way to high, so this could effect the output quite a bit, although I have no clue how it would affect it.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2759 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:14 pm

On the GFS Ensemble Plot - Actually my 5 year son got creative on my MAC PAD... :lol: Seriously, the GFS ensemble models are multiple runs that are slightly perturbed in regards to their parameters. Kind of a monte carlo type run where one can see the all the different tracks using the same model code (GFS). Don't get lost in the individual lines - visualize what an average track might be of all the runs - in this case, it would pretty much go west.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2760 Postby Rainband » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:14 pm

Our local Met Dennis Phillips said that this is entirely possible and the key will be to see how far this makes it north when it exits. It's all depending on when and where the high builds east... He said this storm has been a surprise from the beginning and actually strengthened over land and developed an eye for two hours. Weird storm.
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