ATL GUSTAV: Tropical Depression - Discussion

Janie2006 · #10081 Postby **Janie2006** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:26 pm

Enzo Aquarius wrote:A tornado 5 miles south of Baton Rouge has been reported by CNN, yet there's no tornado warning for it?

Also, thanks for the stream!

Chacor has nicely created a thread for the tornado threat.

GoneBabyGone · #10082 Postby **GoneBabyGone** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:27 pm

Wind definitely picking up here in BR. Are we in the worst of it yet or is it gonna pick up?

Enzo Aquarius · #10083 Postby **Enzo Aquarius** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:27 pm

Janie2006 wrote:
Enzo Aquarius wrote:A tornado 5 miles south of Baton Rouge has been reported by CNN, yet there's no tornado warning for it?

Also, thanks for the stream!

Chacor has nicely created a thread for the tornado threat.

Much appreciated!

gpickett00 · #10084 Postby **gpickett00** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:28 pm

Water levels on the industrial canal may have peaked according to the stream from http://www.wwltv.com/video/?nvid=57429&live=yes

Innotech · #10085 Postby **Innotech** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:28 pm

Windy wrote:
Innotech wrote:the more I think about the levee design in New Orleans, the angrier I get. It is so half assed its not even funny. They need to consult with engineers from the Netherlands, who have the finest dike and levee systems in the world. It is highly important that these levees have thresholds far above even the strongest hurricane. It would cost a lot but so does search and rescue and extensive flood damage. Personally Id rarther spend a hundred million on getting the levees right than dealing with the social and political repercussions of a disasterl ike Katrina. but then again, Im not a Louisiana politician.

Oh, it's way more expensive than that -- it'd be billions up on billions. But I agree; if you're going to have a major metropolitan city below sea level that is very prone to getting hurricanes, you should fortify it so you don't have to drain the place every 20 years. It's not like we live in Haiti and can't afford it that kind of protection.

my point is, price shouldnt matter when youre talking about protecting a major historical city, critical port, and population center. IT should have one of the finest levee systems in the world but its so amateur looking.

soonertwister · #10086 Postby **soonertwister** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:28 pm

Fox News just had a video feed on a part of the levee and it's no longer splashover there, the water is sheeting over the top in continuous overflow.

There was no comment on the feed, I'm not sure if the studio guys even noticed.

Enzo Aquarius · #10087 Postby **Enzo Aquarius** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:29 pm

Water is rushing over part of the Industrial Canal levee now like a waterfall, rather than overtopping. The WDSU feed is showing a good view of it.

Innotech · #10088 Postby **Innotech** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:30 pm

KLFY TV10 in Lafayette went off the air. WInds picking up.

#10089 Postby **StJoe** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:30 pm

Water is rolling over the levve walls now...Thats sucks!!! Sorry NOLA!!! :cry:

Janie2006 · #10090 Postby **Janie2006** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:31 pm

GoneBabyGone wrote:Wind definitely picking up here in BR. Are we in the worst of it yet or is it gonna pick up?

I imagine you're going to have rough weather for a considerable period of time, unfortunately.

#10091 Postby **Stephanie** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:33 pm

Enzo Aquarius wrote:Water is rushing over part of the Industrial Canal levee now like a waterfall, rather than overtopping. The WDSU feed is showing a good view of it.

I was just going to post this.

soonertwister · #10092 Postby **soonertwister** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:33 pm

Now this is rich.

NOLA.com has a story that the L & N railroad bridge across the Industrial Canal is in the down position, causing a 3 foot backup of water.

They've been offered assistance in raising the bridge. Unfortunately, the bridge controls are now under water.

This is the kind of stuff that shouldn't ever happen with a comprehensive levee protection plan.

Shockwave · #10093 Postby **Shockwave** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:33 pm

soonertwister wrote:Fox News just had a video feed on a part of the levee and it's no longer splashover there, the water is sheeting over the top in continuous overflow.

There was no comment on the feed, I'm not sure if the studio guys even noticed.

So I wasn't the only one who thought that was happening. I was surprised they didn't comment on it, that's why I didn't pay it any real mind.

funster · #10094 Postby **funster** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:33 pm

Enzo Aquarius wrote:Water is rushing over part of the Industrial Canal levee now like a waterfall, rather than overtopping. The WDSU feed is showing a good view of it.

I saw that - doesn't look good.

Ed Mahmoud · #10095 Postby **Ed Mahmoud** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:34 pm

35 mph sustained in LFT and the eyewall is still down in St. Martin and Iberia parishes

KLFT 011653Z AUTO 36030G38KT 3SM BR BKN020 OVC027 24/ A2930 RMK AO2 PK WND 36044/1643 RAE1555 PRESFR SLP919 P0006 T0244

#10096 Postby **Shawee** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:36 pm

StJoe wrote:Water is rolling over the levve walls now...Thats sucks!!! Sorry NOLA!!!

This a much stronger "T" wall thank the wrongly engineered "I" walls that toppled last time; before the water even reached the top (17th street for example). USACE spokesperson said because of this and the cement footing, this will probably hold. Let's hope he is rigt, and thanks for the concern!

Calistar · #10097 Postby **Calistar** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:37 pm

Innotech wrote:the more I think about the levee design in New Orleans, the angrier I get. It is so half assed its not even funny. They need to consult with engineers from the Netherlands, who have the finest dike and levee systems in the world. It is highly important that these levees have thresholds far above even the strongest hurricane. It would cost a lot but so does search and rescue and extensive flood damage. Personally Id rarther spend a hundred million on getting the levees right than dealing with the social and political repercussions of a disasterl ike Katrina. but then again, Im not a Louisiana politician.

They did do that after Katrina... Kathleen Blanco, Mary Landrieu, David Vitter and a whole contingent of Louisiana officials went over there to find out if they could do something similar in Louisiana... they were told by the Fed. Gov't. that it was way too expensive of a project to take on...

PTrackerLA · #10098 Postby **PTrackerLA** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:41 pm

Looks like we'll be entering the "core" shortly. We'll be getting the northern eyewall here. Power outages imminent.

Enzo Aquarius · #10099 Postby **Enzo Aquarius** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:41 pm

As reported by the Governor of Louisiana: 6-12 inches of rain expected in Houma.

#10100 Postby **HurricaneQueen** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:42 pm

soonertwister wrote:Now this is rich.

NOLA.com has a story that the L & N railroad bridge across the Industrial Canal is in the down position, causing a 3 foot backup of water.

They've been offered assistance in raising the bridge. Unfortunately, the bridge controls are now under water.

This is the kind of stuff that shouldn't ever happen with a comprehensive levee protection plan.

If true and not hype, how irresponsible is THAT? They are having enough difficulties without human error.

That said, I am seriously concerned for all of S. LA and MS and their residents. Haven't heard how LSU2000's area has made out (Cut Off, LA). Houma and Lafayette appear to have taken/are in the process of taking a real beating.

Lynn

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