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#5761 Postby jasons2k » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:13 pm

Now the big question is will the 6Z models come back to the right some. Seems the NHC is hedging their bets, which is to be expected.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5762 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:13 pm

From the last VDM eyewall is closed:

L. Eye Character: Closed Wall
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 10 nautical miles (12 statute miles)
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5763 Postby rtd2 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:14 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:
Sanibel wrote:Bump WNW.

Could have implications down-track.


I think the increasing convection is giving the illusion he's moving WNW.





Yep..Agree Looks like a bit S L O W E R though
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#5764 Postby Air Force Met » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:15 pm

gatorcane wrote:not even a mention of a threat to the Gulf coast this time...

in the 11AM advisory we saw:

IT
IS STILL MUCH TOO SOON TO KNOW WHAT PORTIONS OF THE GULF COAST
COULD BE IMPACTED BY IKE.

But no mention in the 5PM EST..

instead we see:

SINCE
THE MODELS ARE IN REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST
IS ALSO SHIFTED SOUTHWARD BUT STILL LIES NORTH OF THE DYNAMICAL
MODEL CONSENSUS.


might they be possibly be thinking a threat to Mexico south of Texas?

Hmmm.....


Well...have you considered they might not be mentioning it because they put it inland??? Pretty good declaration of a threat when you stick it on the coast.

Hmmmm.......
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#5765 Postby pablolopez26 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:15 pm

If Ike makes landfall to the south of Houston like the NHC is thinking, wouldnt that mean we get the "dirty side" of the storm?

Would it be "better" to just get a direct hit? I put better in quotations because its not really better per se...
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#5766 Postby fasterdisaster » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:16 pm

Not an official forecast endorsed by S2k or any organization, please refer to official NWS and NHC products.

Definitely think he'll get to Category 2 by second landfall now.
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#5767 Postby Tom8 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:16 pm

NASA's TRMM spacecraft observed this view of Hurricane Ike on September 8, 2008
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003500/a003557/
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5768 Postby N2Storms » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:17 pm

[quote="fasterdisaster"]Anyone else think he's intensifying?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/loop-rb.html[/quote]



Boy, he is looking pretty darn good for someone who went without food and water for 12 -14 hrs. I'm impressed...he is no doubt going to be a very formiddable force to be reckoned with for the folks of Texas...I hate to wish ill on anyone, but I am very, pleased to see Ike not threatening my city/state...
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#5769 Postby dwg71 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:17 pm

pablolopez26 wrote:If Ike makes landfall to the south of Houston like the NHC is thinking, wouldnt that mean we get the "dirty side" of the storm?

Would it be "better" to just get a direct hit? I put better in quotations because its not really better per se...


No, a direct hit would be more devestating than a hit around Matagorday Bay, Hurricane most intense winds would be near the eye wall.
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#5770 Postby pablolopez26 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:19 pm

dwg71 wrote:
No, a direct hit would be more devestating than a hit around Matagorday Bay, Hurricane most intense winds would be near the eye wall.


Okay, that makes sense. Thanks!
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5771 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:20 pm

Umm.....Ahem...Carla....1961....Dont tell that to the folks in Galveston

Much of the damage was done well away from the landfall site, as Carla spawned one of the largest hurricane-related tornado outbreaks on record at the time, when 26 tornadoes touched down within its circulation.[3] One F4 tornado ripped through downtown Galveston, killing several (sources differ on the exact number, varying from 6 to 12). Outside the protection of the Galveston Seawall, structures on the island were severely damaged by storm surge. Damage was reported as far east as the Mississippi River delta.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Carla
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#5772 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:20 pm

Hmmm I'm not so sure its impressive as it looks, the inner core is still a bit messy in that the inner eyewall is still there but the outer eyewall is still contracting down to a more typical size and is strengthening a little.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5773 Postby Tom8 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:20 pm

The MODIS on NASA’s Terra satellite captured this image at 10:40 a.m. EDT on September 4, 2008
http://modis.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/indi ... 2008-09-08
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5774 Postby rtd2 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:21 pm

N2Storms wrote:
fasterdisaster wrote:Anyone else think he's intensifying?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/loop-rb.html




Boy, he is looking pretty darn good for someone who went without food and water for 12 -14 hrs. I'm impressed...he is no doubt going to be a very formiddable force to be reckoned with for the folks of Texas...I hate to wish ill on anyone, but I am very, pleased to see Ike not threatening my city/state...




yeah but unless he squeaks through the channel he will go back across cuba and weaken again...
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5775 Postby Sanibel » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:22 pm

290* and closer to the Keys if it doesn't correct.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5776 Postby srainhoutx » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:23 pm

Tireman4 wrote:Umm.....Ahem...Carla....1962....Dont tell that to the folks in Galveston

Much of the damage was done well away from the landfall site, as Carla spawned one of the largest hurricane-related tornado outbreaks on record at the time, when 26 tornadoes touched down within its circulation.[3] One F4 tornado ripped through downtown Galveston, killing several (sources differ on the exact number, varying from 6 to 12). Outside the protection of the Galveston Seawall, structures on the island were severely damaged by storm surge. Damage was reported as far east as the Mississippi River delta.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Carla


For the record. Carla was September 11/12, 1961 :wink:
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5777 Postby rtd2 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:24 pm

Sanibel wrote:290* and closer to the Keys if it doesn't correct.



i think the warnings for the keys have been discontinued? as of 5pm
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#5778 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:26 pm

Had they put landfall in Galveston or East I would be more at ease. With the track now SW I am more concerned for Houston. Even if Houston can avoid a direct Hit it will be on the nast side of Ike. I'm thinking Carla type scenario also which did alot of Damage in Houston despite landfall well SW of Houston.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5779 Postby Brent » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:28 pm

rtd2 wrote:
Sanibel wrote:290* and closer to the Keys if it doesn't correct.



i think the warnings for the keys have been discontinued? as of 5pm


The Hurricane Watch was, the TS Warning remains.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#5780 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:28 pm

Sanibel wrote:290* and closer to the Keys if it doesn't correct.


I think the center feature with the inner eyewall is still heading around 275-280 keeping in track with the Cuban coast's shape.
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