I'm open minded BUT.......

GalvestonDuck · #61 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 2:38 pm

Rainband wrote:LOL...BTW I think Duck is a she

Yup. That I am.

Lindaloo · #62 Postby **Lindaloo** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 2:40 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:
Rainband wrote:LOL...BTW I think Duck is a she

Yup. That I am.

Well then!!! LOL!!! Sorry :oops:

Rainband · #63 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 2:42 pm

Lindaloo wrote:
GalvestonDuck wrote:
Rainband wrote:LOL...BTW I think Duck is a she

Yup. That I am.

Well then!!! LOL!!! Sorry

Hey we all make mistakes :wink:

..BTW duck I love that AFLAC redefined sign :lol:

GulfBreezer · #64 Postby **GulfBreezer** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 2:58 pm

I have read all the posts here and while I respect everyone's opinion as their own, which you are entitled too, I have no desire to debate this issue. I am posting simply to tell Johnathon and GD that I am your friend and like it has been said, nothing is any different now that it was before these posts were made. Johnathon and I have had a nice long AIM chat about this and he knows that I am his friend first and foremost. GD, I hope you know how I feel too. Life is just too short for things to get in the way of one heart touching another, the way they do between friends. I appreciate the honesty and integrity of this board and there many here who I consider dear, dear friends. Love is simply simple!! Live Simply; Laugh Often;Love Deeply!

Sandi :lol:

Rainband · #65 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:03 pm

GulfBreezer wrote:I have read all the posts here and while I respect everyone's opinion as their own, which you are entitled too, I have no desire to debate this issue. I am posting simply to tell Johnathon and GD that I am your friend and like it has been said, nothing is any different now that it was before these posts were made. Johnathon and I have had a nice long AIM chat about this and he knows that I am his friend first and foremost. GD, I hope you know how I feel too. Life is just too short for things to get in the way of one heart touching another, the way they do between friends. I appreciate the honesty and integrity of this board and there many here who I consider dear, dear friends. Love is simply simple!! Live Simply; Laugh Often;Love Deeply!

Sandi

Well said!!!! :wink:

Lindaloo · #66 Postby **Lindaloo** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:35 pm

Well stated Gulfbreezer!!!

#67 Postby **Stephanie** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:44 pm

Rainband wrote:
Stephanie wrote:Duck - I'm certainly not offended in anyway! I'm glad I just got to know both you and Jonathan alittle better today! Sometimes you do need to speak up and let your feelings and thoughts be known!

Jonathan - I keep screwing up the spelling of your name. Is it Jonathan or Johnathan? :?
It's actually Johnathan.. Thanks Stephanie..I am glad we are friends!!

Same here!

I had the spelling right all along!

Lindaloo · #68 Postby **Lindaloo** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:01 pm

Well it is about time Steph!! You are the reason Chad added the spell checker feature.

j/k

Miss Mary · #69 Postby **Miss Mary** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:11 pm

Hi all - Wow, walk away from this topic for 6 hours and all you know what breaks loose! I got stung by a bee this morning, sat in the ER parking lot for an hour to see if symptoms were progressing (I'm highly allergic to some bees) and then just had lunch with my daughter in the hospital cafeteria (a good one, actually!). Luckily it wasn't a full blown reaction but now I'm all looped up on Benadryl.....

Johnathan - I most want to commend you for speaking up and revealing you are gay. That took so much courage and I do NOT think any less of you. I actually think MORE of you now. I hope you know you're among friends here. Please consider me a friend too.

Duck - I don't think I ever got to welcome you to Storm2K properly. You must have joined when I was away on vacation or something! You have many good points to make. Wonderful insight!

Rainband · #70 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:27 pm

Miss Mary wrote:Hi all - Wow, walk away from this topic for 6 hours and all you know what breaks loose! I got stung by a bee this morning, sat in the ER parking lot for an hour to see if symptoms were progressing (I'm highly allergic to some bees) and then just had lunch with my daughter in the hospital cafeteria (a good one, actually!). Luckily it wasn't a full blown reaction but now I'm all looped up on Benadryl.....

Johnathan - I most want to commend you for speaking up and revealing you are gay. That took so much courage and I do NOT think any less of you. I actually think MORE of you now. I hope you know you're among friends here. Please consider me a friend too.

Duck - I don't think I ever got to welcome you to Storm2K properly. You must have joined when I was away on vacation or something! You have many good points to make. Wonderful insight!

I do consider you a friend!!!!

I am so happy you didn't have a full blown reaction and your ok..I used to be allergic to bees when I was younger but I am not sure if I am now. I am allergic to shellfish...out of everything I have to be allergic to YUM YUM lobster ..SHRIMP CRAB... :roll:

COULDN't be LIVER!!!! :lol:

ANYWAY glad YOUR OK AND ENJOYED YOUR LUNCH!!!! :wink:

ColdFront77 · #71 Postby **ColdFront77** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:39 pm

Yes, indeed... Mary. I tried to read all the posts in this thread since my last visit... I scanned the ones I didn't read (like the entire board in general).

Jonathan, I am still your friend as well. I appreciate your discussions on this board and looking forward to corresponding with you when ever you wish.

Rainband · #72 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:41 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:Yes, indeed... Mary. I tried to read all the posts in this thread since my last visit... I scanned the ones I didn't read (like the entire board in general).

Jonathan, I am still your friend as well. I appreciate you discussions on this board and looking forward to corresponding with you when ever you wish.

Thanks TOM..I enjoy your posts and chats too!!! :wink:

Momlett · #73 Postby **Momlett** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:44 pm

The bible?? I believe the bible was translated to the best of the ablities of the translators...

Forgive me for pushing the issue. This isn't really about sexual orientation, I just want to ask you a sincere question: I asked if you believe the Bible is true, and you said that you do. Now I get the impression that you're not quite sure the Bible is a reliable source of information. This leads me to wonder, how can you believe it's true if you're not sure it's accurately recorded? I have struggled with this issue myself in the past. I needed a LOT of evidence to convince me that the Bible is a valid source of information and inspiration. While I cannot give you "proof", (proof is a judgment call & can only be pronounced by the individual studying the evidence), I can present a boatload of evidence that the King James Bible is a very reasonably accurate (within a few syntax errors that don't affect intended meaning) translation of original manuscripts, of which there are more extant copies than any other historical document.

Being fairly new to this forum, I cannot say that I am your friend, but whether you are gay or not, whether or not you accept the Bible to be true, whether you are black or white or pink or purple, I will treat you with the respect I would offer to anyone, barring personal attacks to myself, my loved ones or my God.

GalvestonDuck wrote:
Momlett wrote:I have no issue with gays, I take issue with homosexuality. I have no issue with adulterers; I take issue with adultery....

Wouldn't that be like saying I have no issue with child molestors; I take issue with child molestation?

I take issue with BOTH.

You make an excellent point, but I think it's important to distinguish the person from the act. Jesus, on many occasions, had dealings with a number of rather unsavory characters, and He was judged for it by the religious leaders of His day. He had compassion on the adulteress, on the harlot, on the thief hanging next to him on the cross; he had compassion on the tax collectors who were charging people an insane amount of money for their own gain, but He didn't mince words. He made it very clear that they were to "go and sin no more." He cared for these people. He wanted to show them a better way, and many of them had a change of heart because of His compassion toward them. I care for my dad, a child molester (coming way out of the closet now), but I certainly don't appreciate his actions. I have forgiven him for his past offenses to me because of the forgiveness I have received from my Lord, and I continue to pray for him, in hopes that someday he will find true peace in a life of service to God, because I care about him.

~~~

Jonathan, I don't know you, but I want you to know that it would greatly grieve me to know if something bad happened to you. It would be true then, for me to say that I care about you, regardless of my opinions on your lifestyle choices.

#74 Postby **vbhoutex** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:53 pm

Rainband wrote:
Amanzi wrote:Standing for our beliefs and opinions makes us who we are.... I am open and honest about my beliefs and will not be untrue to myself for anyone.. my open candidness has gotten me into messes before, but I can go to sleep at night knowing I am true to who I am and what I believe.

We have a difference in opionions about certain things, but thats not to say I dont consider John to be my friend AND A GOOD one at that, and he always will be!
Thanks Stephanie and Bron..VB I choose to come out here because..Like I said I feel like we are all family and I wanted to be honest and to be able to reply when I feel like need to..like I said some people will never understand and by me coming out..it wasn't pushing it in your face..it was being true to myself..If you have a problem with that then sorry!! VB wrote <<<<< It is of no consequence to me one way or the other until "you" try to push it off on me or ask for special dispensation due to your sexual orientation. I guess the best way to say how I feel is that I have never understood why SOME have to let others publicly know what their sexual orientation is(and I am not saying you should not have "come out" here)by the way they act in public. >>>>>>>>..more misconception..why would I want special privleges?? I just want the same rights as you have..nothing more nothing less As I said I think many people have a misconception of what gay people are like..you all know me and like me..hopefully still do My point is if I told everyone in the beginning they might not have liked me..before they got to know me..I am just trying to say don't judge the many by the actions of a few..plain and simple...

I do not want to belabor this at all, but I must clear something up!!! When I put the quotes around you I was generalizing the term to those who do "flaunt" their sexuality, whatever it may be. I applaud you for feeling comfortable enough with yourself and who you are and with your family here to be open about your gayness. I was talking about flamers or whatever you want to call the them, not normal everyday people that are like you Johnathan. I would never want you or any other person, gay or otherwise, to be denied the same rights I as an American citizen am afforded by the Constitution and laws of this country. I'm sorry if you misread my post earlier-THERE WAS NEVER ANY MAL INTENT IN THE POST AT ALL-NEVER!!!! I AM NOT THAT TYPE OF PERSON!!! There are several here at Storm2k that can attest to that!! I consider you my friend and have since I came to know you here at Storm2k and it shall remain that way unless you choose to change it.

Rainband · #75 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 5:01 pm

Momlett wrote:
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Jonathan, I don't know you, but I want you to know that it would greatly grieve me to know if something bad happened to you. It would be true then, for me to say that I care about you, regardless of my opinions on your lifestyle choices.

I appreciate that and thank you..The world is made up of Many different individuals..those individuals make up groups..those groups make up Mankind..the key word is Man No matter our color ...our religion..or sexuality..We are all human beings..No matter how different...misunderstood..or persecuted..That is one thing..maybe the only thing we will always have in comman. thats all anyone wants is to be respected..I have said it before..I treat people like I want to be treated..Thats how I live my life..no matter what happens thats how I always will.

Rainband · #76 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 5:14 pm

David wrote>>>do not want to belabor this at all, but I must clear something up!!! When I put the quotes around you I was generalizing the term to those who do "flaunt" their sexuality, whatever it may be. I applaud you for feeling comfortable enough with yourself and who you are and with your family here to be open about your gayness. I was talking about flamers or whatever you want to call the them, not normal everyday people that are like you Johnathan. I would never want you or any other person, gay or otherwise, to be denied the same rights I as an American citizen am afforded by the Constitution and laws of this country. I'm sorry if you misread my post earlier-THERE WAS NEVER ANY MAL INTENT IN THE POST AT ALL-NEVER!!!! I AM NOT THAT TYPE OF PERSON!!! There are several here at Storm2k that can attest to that!! I consider you my friend and have since I came to know you here at Storm2k and it shall remain that way unless you choose to change it....>>> Thank you David!!!

I consider you my friend as well..I apologise for the misunderstanding!! :wink:

GalvestonDuck · #77 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 5:28 pm

Momlett wrote: I have struggled with this issue myself in the past. I needed a LOT of evidence to convince me that the Bible is a valid source of information and inspiration.

That's why we call it faith. We read it with an open heart, open mind, and have faith that God will show us the wisdom and guidance that He has planned for our lives.

Miss Mary -- thanks!

Rainband · #78 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:18 pm

I agree 100% Duck..without faith..I wouldn't have made it through alot of situations..I am happy to be close to GOD and have the strong faith I do :wink:

#79 Postby **bfez1** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:24 pm

You are a great friend and asset to this board, Johnathan!
Luv ya for who you are!
Bonnie

Rainband · #80 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:26 pm

bfez1 wrote:You are a great friend and asset to this board, Johnathan!
Luv ya for who you are!
Bonnie

Thanks Bonnie!!!! luv you too :wink:

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