ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4281 Postby Emmett_Brown » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:37 pm

Convergence is still fairly high near Erika, expect the current blowup that Sanibel is conjuring to expand:

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4282 Postby SapphireSea » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm

wxman57 wrote:Hard to tell, but I think the weak LLC is gone now. Convection around the MLC is weakening. NHC may call it dissipated in the next hour.


I see that as well. I think the MLC is going to collapse shortly too, if anything those last two blowups of covection may actually kill any weak centers when they collapse with the outflow I think. If those new bursts actually expand over the MLC maybe there is a chance, but its slim..

Would this be a sound observation?
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4283 Postby ddad040 » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:54 pm

Anybodys guess tonight. See if she has enough for another convective explosion. My money is on atleast one more strong sheared blowup tonight.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4284 Postby Sanibel » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:56 pm

If that last burst doesn't expand, which it doesn't look like it will do, it's toast.
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#4285 Postby Gustywind » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:58 pm

Hard time for Erika...

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#4286 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:04 pm

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Trying to fight back.
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#4287 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:06 pm

She is on life support for sure and the shear looks like it will pull the plug!
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4288 Postby breeze » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:07 pm

I decided to learn a bit about tropical systems, this season, so I've been lurking like an owl in a
tree for a week or so watching your posts, going to the image loops to try and see what each
was pointing out, and just watching the conversation flow. I admit, we've got a great gang
of pro mets and very good amateurs on here - I'm impressed! You all taught me quite a bit
while watching Danny go from exciting to "poor naked Danny", lol, and then watching Erika
fire up and then fade. Thanks to all of you for sharing your knowledge. I plan to lurk again in
the future. And, I'm glad all of our peeps in the Islands fared well with this storm. Thumbs up
to you all! :cheesy:
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#4289 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:08 pm

Here the latest look at the models. You see the BAMs and CMC move it west as a weak system and the other models develop it and take it poleward pretty quickly.

Right now there are several good models that still want to develop this in a few days and take it northward off the Eastern seaboard of the US. That includes the GFDL, HWRF, GFS and NOGAPS.

What these models see is better upper-level winds to the north of the Caribbean with a nice upper-level anticyclone anchored offshore the SE US. If Erika or the remnant low get into that area, I think we'll see some redevelopment.

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4290 Postby expat2carib » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:08 pm

The MLC and LLC didn't swing together for her. Mid level shear one of the factors.

She did get rid of the LLC can she ground herself? Can she keep her clothes on?
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#4291 Postby hurricanetrack » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:08 pm

This has to be one of the most painful storms to watch in a long, long time. Only Debby in 2000 comes close in my mind to something like this- that had so much potential but fell so short. Oh well, excellent news for anyone with coastal interests where ever this might have impacted.

I have to hand it to people like Bastardi who said the season would be defined by sinking air and storms struggling to get going- but this is bad, really bad but hey, he said the Euro showed this happening months ago. Wow. Go figure.
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#4292 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:12 pm

The only chance she has is to move northwards north of the islands and take advantage of a nice anti-cyclone anchored off the SE US mainland. The upper-level winds are favorable there and would allow development. Indeed several models think she will redevelop there in a few days and head northward likely away from the United States. This would happen towards the end of this weekend and into early next week if it does.

Note the anticyclone:
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#4293 Postby Gustywind » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:18 pm

Final measurements concerning the amounts of water in Guadeloupe...during the last 24 Hours
Erika's episode :darrow:

Meteo-France Guadeloupe measured 100 millimeters at Basse-Terre and higher in some areas in vicinity. 150 millimeters have been reported on the east of Guadeloupe ("Grande Terre"). Another area in Grande Terre, Le Moule experienced 80 and Petit-Canal 75.
Les Saintes have 96 millimeters and la Désirade 77.
Strongests gusts have reached 90 kilometer per hour (49kts) at Marie-Galante.
To sum up weak TS effects, but for sure Basse-Terre experienced this" little "feature as HUC said ("yeah I FELT IT yesterday night") in one of it previous posts about the violents thunder impacts abating, frequents lightnings, juicy amount of rain showers). Basse-Terre and the adjacents areas have reported very very minor damages even nothing in spite of two big floodings (Trois-Rivières and Bouillante) given the latest infos from the radio and TV.
Gustywind :)
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4294 Postby Sanibel » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:18 pm

You can really see the mid circulation dissipating back by the QuickScat center showing this storm was screwed up in structure. Meanwhile that weak surface vortex from which the last burst is eminating is sputtering in unfavorable air and shear. Bottom line is toast like Ana.

2009 storms need a head start to break this barrier of negative conditions.
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#4295 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:20 pm

It's dying Jim...
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#4296 Postby hurricanetrack » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:25 pm

Ok, so what do we have next to watch? 95L anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

Come on, we still have ALL of September to get through- it could be BIG month.

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4297 Postby Sanibel » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:27 pm

This Nino year has produced a July like shear condition in the Caribbean in prime September.
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#4298 Postby lonelymike » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:30 pm

I have to hand it to people like Bastardi who said the season would be defined by sinking air and storms struggling to get going- but this is bad, really bad but hey, he said the Euro showed this happening months ago. Wow. Go figure.[/quote]


What.....praise for the Euro and Joe B in the same post? :eek: Ye must be taught never to do that again. Don't you know that the GFS and Bob Breck are the only approved model and procnosticator allowed on this board. Next time ye shall be flogged with a banana peel and a Michael Jackson video. :ggreen:
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#4299 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:30 pm

As far as I am concerned Erika is DEAD. She might have a pretty healthy MLC, but we don't name systems for mlc's. So, its adios IMO for erika. Now, her remains **could** have a future if the crap would move north of the islands. Mid shear is pretty much nada up there, but the crap isn't moving much. rant over....I am tired of the tropics this year...bring me winter!!! :D
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4300 Postby lonelymike » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:31 pm

Sanibel wrote:This Nino year has produced a July like shear condition in the Caribbean in prime September.


Isn't that amazing. Also the Gulf has a fair amount of shear for this time of year. That's what makes weather so fascinating.
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