ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION IDA

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#3761 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:22 am

That almost looks like an extratropical storm now.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#3762 Postby MGC » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:24 am

Burst of convection near the center, Ida is still fighting....I look for the surface track to shift a bit more west today. I think Ida will come in near Ocean Springs Miss. The storm should continue to weaken.

Ed Rappaport was just on WDSU Ch 6 in New Orleans. He said the more west Ida goes the weaker it will become as the cyclone is decoupling......NGC
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#3763 Postby attallaman » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:29 am

What caused the track to shift Ida back towards the W? Early this morning wasn't Ida forecasted to go into the panhandle of FL? What moved it back towards the W? A ridge of H pressure?
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#3764 Postby RNGR » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:33 am

i wish people would keep posting on this, theres still a very strong cyclone in the gulf.. the wind threat may be dropping but theres still a storm surge, heavy rainfall, and possible tornado threat.
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#3765 Postby Kennethb » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:43 am

Could Ida and other blob in NW GOM be competing/affecting movement and perhaps become one low?
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#3766 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:47 am

attallaman wrote:What caused the track to shift Ida back towards the W? Early this morning wasn't Ida forecasted to go into the panhandle of FL? What moved it back towards the W? A ridge of H pressure?

I believe it has to do with steering currents. I remember a post yesterday showing the charts, a weaker system would go further west compared to a stronger system. Ida is now weaker, thanks to most of her former self being sheared away to the NE.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#3767 Postby stormy1970al » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:47 am

Sabanic wrote:That is right over our heads here



I know. I am across from you over in Fairhope near Weeks Bay. Conditions over here this morning is a little wind picking up since this morning and cloudy. I haven't been down to the water yet but will be making a trip soon since the girls are driving me crazy to go. Nothing like a hurricane day. I am assuming the rain is coming. The air has that smell to it.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA - Models

#3768 Postby somethingfunny » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:51 am

Well so much for the 965mb low pressure system that was going to slam the Gulf Coast. I suppose it could still happen depending on how the Extratropical transition goes.

Even so I think the models did very well with Hurricane Ida, considering the complicated situation. What's frightening is that the GFDL's early forecasts could have easily verified had Ida remained offshore of Nicuragua. I don't think any of us really expected this to make a run at Category 3 status in the Yucatan Channel but several models (GFDL and HWRF mainly) were consistently predicting Ida to intensify into quite a significant storm which it did do.

The SE motion might end up verifying too. Taking a look at the BAMS (shallow-layer steering flow) model it seems pretty likely that once Ida's LLC and MLC decouple, the LLC may never actually make landfall although the mid-level circulation and most of the energy will still bring heavy weather to the southeastern US.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#3769 Postby wxman57 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:53 am

1330Z HRD Ida wind field analysis indicates only a small area of 50+ kt winds SE of the center now. Weakening fast. I think that the immediate coastal areas will see sustained winds of 35-45 mph and some higher gusts, but that's about it.

ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/pub/hwind/2 ... tour04.png
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#3770 Postby rolltide » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:53 am

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attallaman wrote:What caused the track to shift Ida back towards the W? Early this morning wasn't Ida forecasted to go into the panhandle of FL? What moved it back towards the W? A ridge of H pressure?

I believe it has to do with steering currents. I remember a post yesterday showing the charts, a weaker system would go further west compared to a stronger system. Ida is now weaker, thanks to most of her former self being sheared away to the NE.


I think the increase in forward speed is the reason for the shift west.
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#3771 Postby somethingfunny » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:54 am

RNGR wrote:i wish people would keep posting on this, theres still a very strong cyclone in the gulf.. the wind threat may be dropping but theres still a storm surge, heavy rainfall, and possible tornado threat.


I agree 100%.
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#3772 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:58 am

Nice blow up of storms over the LLC right now.
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#3773 Postby RNGR » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:59 am

after looking over the models on PSU ewall. i think that the flash flood watch and forecast 3-6 inches in north Georgia is quite overdone. it looks like most of the weather will stay on the north gulf coast area.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/regions12z.html
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#3774 Postby tolakram » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:59 am

High speed visible

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=18

The engine is still running, but becoming exposed.

Zoomed out:

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=18
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#3775 Postby Blown Away » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:04 am

deltadog03 wrote:Nice blow up of storms over the LLC right now.


This system is getting mauled, that LLC is struggling to go NNW and everything is being blown off the NE. Can't see how that recent convection can maintain itself for to long. Very interesting system.
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#3776 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:06 am

I still see a fairly healthy llc. its getting sheared sure, but pretty strong convection over it. and its moving nicely to the north. wxman what kind of speed of movement you getting?
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#3777 Postby IvanSurvivor » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:08 am

What is that flare up east of the islands?
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#3778 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:08 am

Is that the circulation center at the bottom of the radar range south of the mouth of Miss? Seems to coincide with the blowup of convection. Also still looks to be moving NNW.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?prod ... X&loop=yes
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#3779 Postby tolakram » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:08 am

Black IR again, Ida is fighting, but almost out of warm water.

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#3780 Postby tolakram » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:11 am

Mobile radar, long range.

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