Cali. approves marijuana 'vending machines'

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#21 Postby Squarethecircle » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:42 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:and nowhere does the Constitution prohibit such regulation.


Amendment IX: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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#22 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:04 pm

regulating interstate commerce is granted to the Feds. As I said, many come across state lines to purchase the illegal substance
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#23 Postby Ptarmigan » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:33 pm

Marijuana grows in almost any soil, unlike tobacco, cotton, or wheat for beer. Tobacco and beer industry like to see marijuana illegalize because it will affect their business, especially cotton industry. The cotton industry played a role in making marijuana illegal. Hemp fiber is very strong and cheap, unlike cotton. Hemp was seen as a threat to the cotton industry because only the wealth could afford it.

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#24 Postby Dionne » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:54 am

The conflict between the Feds and the state regarding legalized marijuana has been going on since the 70's. When Alaska legalized marijuana growing for personal use the Feds began their raids...seizing everything. When each case went to court it was immediately thrown out. Nothing was ever returned to growers. And the raids continued. The laws have since changed back and forth several times.

There are numerous reasons marijuana has not been legalized. At the top of the list is that marijuana is considered a "gateway drug".....kind of like starting out on catnip and ending up on heroin. Which is absurd. Then we have the group that thinks THC is mixed in a bathtub and laced into the marijuana. Don't laugh....there really are people out there that think this way. The most foolish of all is that marijuana users should be imprisoned. We're going to be needing a lot more prisons for the baby boomers.

Did you know that in Mississippi.....drunk drivers lose their liscense for 90 days.....a driver with even the smallest amount of marijuana in the vehicle loses driving privileges for 180 days. Having an ounce of marijuana is a felony.....meanwhile you must be caught drunk driving 3 times before it becomes a felony.

Now we have a leading presidential contender that admits to having used marijuana and cocaine......and we have people in prison for doing the same.
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#25 Postby coriolis » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:39 pm

Ah, the marijuana debate. During my college days I was, lets say, notorious. After getting married and having kids things changed. I made the decision to give it up for practical rather than moral reasons, and I've shared this with my kids:

1. It's expensive and diverts money away from needed things like food, diapers, and school lunch money.
2. It is illegal and it could make life complicated and even more expensive if caught.
3. Life is simpler without having to worry about hiding it, losing it, running out, and finding more.
4. Smoking anything carries health risks.

That's good enough for me and I am not inclined to lobby for legalization. You can go round and round on the moral/legal/freedom issues, but I'd rather spend my energy on other battles.
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#26 Postby gtalum » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:04 am

Dionne wrote:There are numerous reasons marijuana has not been legalized. At the top of the list is that marijuana is considered a "gateway drug".....kind of like starting out on catnip and ending up on heroin. Which is absurd. Then we have the group that thinks THC is mixed in a bathtub and laced into the marijuana. Don't laugh....there really are people out there that think this way. The most foolish of all is that marijuana users should be imprisoned. We're going to be needing a lot more prisons for the baby boomers.


The real reason marijuana is illegal is because it's so easy to grow and use. The alcohol and tobacco lobbies pay congress a fortune to keep it illegal. Anybody can grow weed int heir backyard with little effort. There's no big corporate profits in that.
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#27 Postby Dionne » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:33 am

gtalum wrote:
Dionne wrote:There are numerous reasons marijuana has not been legalized. At the top of the list is that marijuana is considered a "gateway drug".....kind of like starting out on catnip and ending up on heroin. Which is absurd. Then we have the group that thinks THC is mixed in a bathtub and laced into the marijuana. Don't laugh....there really are people out there that think this way. The most foolish of all is that marijuana users should be imprisoned. We're going to be needing a lot more prisons for the baby boomers.


The real reason marijuana is illegal is because it's so easy to grow and use. The alcohol and tobacco lobbies pay congress a fortune to keep it illegal. Anybody can grow weed int heir backyard with little effort. There's no big corporate profits in that.


You don't think there are large profits in $4000 a pound sinsemilla?
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#28 Postby MGC » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:16 pm

Its all about money....since weed can be grown at home and consumed without the tax man getting his share it is illegal. Until the tax man can get his share pot will remain illegal. I don't use the stuff nor am I advocating or condoning its use, just my opinion why weed is illegal....MGC
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#29 Postby gtalum » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:25 am

Dionne wrote:You don't think there are large profits in $4000 a pound sinsemilla?


It wouldn't be $4000 a pound if it were legal. ;)

My point is that anyone can grow and process marijuana. If it's legal, it would cut seriously into the profit centers of alcohol and tobacco.
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Re: Cali. approves marijuana 'vending machines'

#30 Postby Dionne » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:35 pm

gtalum wrote:
Dionne wrote:You don't think there are large profits in $4000 a pound sinsemilla?


It wouldn't be $4000 a pound if it were legal. ;)

My point is that anyone can grow and process marijuana. If it's legal, it would cut seriously into the profit centers of alcohol and tobacco.


Medical marijuana is legal. And it is very expensive. It is sold by the gram at $10 and by the ounce at $260. ($10 X 453 = $4530). Oddly enough one pound of medical marijuana cost about the same as one A/C chemo infusion for breast cancer. What's wrong with this picture?

Contrary to popular belief, high grade marijuana is not that easy to grow. True, anyone can throw some seeds in the ground and grow field pot. Growing high grade is an entirely different deal.
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