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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2841 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:47 pm

cwp419 wrote:
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cwp419 wrote:http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/?n=dsnows

The same applies for North Texas. In fact, there is nothing to indicate that February is any snowier than December....


Except personal experience at least for me here in north Texas. Past decade or so MY experience with Dec\Jan are with ice storms and usually snow in Feb.


lol, personal experience doesn't mean anything


lol what good does do for you if you don't experience it?
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2842 Postby cwp419 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:51 pm

Ntxw wrote:
lol what good does do for you if you don't experience it?


It's anecdotal evidence, which means nothing in the worlds of statistics...which climatology is based on. It's just a coincidence that snow has occurred more frequently in February than any other month in the past decade. The sample size isn't large enough to draw any long term conclusions.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2843 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:55 pm

cwp419 wrote:
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lol what good does do for you if you don't experience it?


It's anecdotal evidence, which means nothing in the worlds of statistics...which climatology is based on. It's just a coincidence that snow has occurred more frequently in February than any other month in the past decade. The sample size isn't large enough to draw any long term conclusions.


It was simply an extension to fun thoughts that this weather pattern might give more fun for us, no need to get technical on it. She stated her opinion and I added to that fun. If it offends you in anyway, I apologize. No need to get too into it lol.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2844 Postby Dallasaggie01 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:00 pm

cwp419 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
lol what good does do for you if you don't experience it?


It's anecdotal evidence, which means nothing in the worlds of statistics...which climatology is based on. It's just a coincidence that snow has occurred more frequently in February than any other month in the past decade. The sample size isn't large enough to draw any long term conclusions.


good point, but I see what he's saying. Other than some late Nov. early Dec. minor ice/freezing rain events, the last 8 years I've been back in the Dallas area it seems that late Jan through 1st week of March is the more "active" winter weather period. Maybe its because the major events of the past 3-4 years have been late Jan into mid Feb., of course this doesn't mean much in the scope of the long terms records...
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2845 Postby severe » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:05 pm

I don't care which month it comes in...........as long as it comes to southeast Texas. First 40 something pages of this thread were pretty much concerned with the rare snow event we had here on Dec. 4th. Rest of the thread has been north Texas. It's time to even out this thread again, oh and I guess San Antonio/Austin area can get in on the act.
Bring it.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2846 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:07 pm

severe wrote:I don't care which month it comes in...........as long as it comes to southeast Texas. First 40 something pages of this thread were pretty much concerned with the rare snow event we had here on Dec. 4th. Rest of the thread has been north Texas. It's time to even out this thread again, oh and I guess San Antonio/Austin area can get in on the act.
Bring it.


I sure hope you guys do! I'll be heading down to Houston next week to visit family, how fun that would be =P. Also the San Antonio\Austin area hasn't really seen much in the way of snow so lets keep ours fingers crossed :D
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2847 Postby somethingfunny » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:30 pm

*yawn*
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2848 Postby iorange55 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:05 pm

Need to watch that little disturbance on thursday night models could be a little light on the precip. Seems like it tries to get its act together right over us, and cold air will be filtering in. Probably won't be anything major could be a surprise, though.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2849 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:11 pm

iorange55 wrote:Need to watch that little disturbance on thursday night models could be a little light on the precip. Seems like it tries to get its act together right over us, and cold air will be filtering in. Probably won't be anything major could be a surprise, though.


I'll be at the big D nye thing, so if there are flurries, nice way to ring in the new year :wink:
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#2850 Postby hb905 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:17 pm

next monday and tuesday, cold temperatures, but any precip with it????
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2851 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:29 pm

:uarrow: This was the best lower level moisture return I could find for that time frame on tonight's 0z GFS.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/00/images/gfs_pcp_126s.gif
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#2852 Postby katheria » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:36 pm

gboudx wrote:I'd go take pics of my yard, but you probably know what wet, dead grass looks like. :)


LOL dont feel bad, live lesss than 4 miles from rockwall, yep pics of wet dead grass is about all i can take also..

Snowed here for maybe maybe 5 mins max, but some of the largest snowflakes i have ever seen,,
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2853 Postby attallaman » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:48 pm

I was watching one of J.B.'s videos on Accuweather which he taped this morning and he's calling for brutally cold temperatures here in the deep south the week after New Years and also stated the possibility of snow along the I-10 corridor from Houston to Florida. He didn't say whether the snow might form north or south of the I-10 corridor. I live well south of the I-10 corridor, I'm less than 3 miles north of the beach so I'll probably get nothing more than cold rain at my location but J.B. also said the low temperatures going all the way down to Orlando would be the coldest temperatures this season and could threaten the citrus crops in Florida.
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#2854 Postby somethingfunny » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:48 pm

katheria wrote:
gboudx wrote:I'd go take pics of my yard, but you probably know what wet, dead grass looks like. :)


LOL dont feel bad, live lesss than 4 miles from rockwall, yep pics of wet dead grass is about all i can take also..

Snowed here for maybe maybe 5 mins max, but some of the largest snowflakes i have ever seen,,


We had a couple hours of big snowflakes melting into the ground here in Garland and at my job in Mesquite. Why does the eastern half of Dallas County always get the shaft from wintry weather? It's remarkable how consistently a 30 mile stretch of unremarkable prairie makes all the difference (Tarrant vs Dallas counties)
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#2855 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:51 pm

somethingfunny wrote:
katheria wrote:
gboudx wrote:I'd go take pics of my yard, but you probably know what wet, dead grass looks like. :)


LOL dont feel bad, live lesss than 4 miles from rockwall, yep pics of wet dead grass is about all i can take also..

Snowed here for maybe maybe 5 mins max, but some of the largest snowflakes i have ever seen,,


We had a couple hours of big snowflakes melting into the ground here in Garland and at my job in Mesquite. Why does the eastern half of Dallas County always get the shaft from wintry weather? It's remarkable how consistently a 30 mile stretch of unremarkable prairie makes all the difference (Tarrant vs Dallas counties)


Perhaps elevation (not sure)? There's quite a big difference generally going west county per county when it comes to snow amounts too. It seems Fort Worth west has a similar climate (with snow etc) as West Texas while Dallas east conjures with east Texas (rains a lot). Or simply in the words of Portastorm, that darn omega block! :(
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#2856 Postby katheria » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:47 am

somethingfunny wrote:
katheria wrote:
gboudx wrote:I'd go take pics of my yard, but you probably know what wet, dead grass looks like. :)


LOL dont feel bad, live lesss than 4 miles from rockwall, yep pics of wet dead grass is about all i can take also..

Snowed here for maybe maybe 5 mins max, but some of the largest snowflakes i have ever seen,,


We had a couple hours of big snowflakes melting into the ground here in Garland and at my job in Mesquite. Why does the eastern half of Dallas County always get the shaft from wintry weather? It's remarkable how consistently a 30 mile stretch of unremarkable prairie makes all the difference (Tarrant vs Dallas counties)



i have always wondered about that also..

I just think there is a big umbrella over the top of us in the winter :roll: :rain:

but in the spring we get all the storms right over my neighborhood here it seems..
every year its a major clean up 3-4 times of tree branches...ect
not sure how many tornadoes have hit within 10 miles of here, our house has been hit once early 90's (Roof torn off bad) and been missed by 1 block.. this year we lost two strong wood storage buildings in our back yard...
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#2857 Postby WantSnow » Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:44 am

somethingfunny wrote: Why does the eastern half of Dallas County always get the shaft from wintry weather? It's remarkable how consistently a 30 mile stretch of unremarkable prairie makes all the difference (Tarrant vs Dallas counties)

???

That has been my gripe forever. The eastern side always gets shafted. I always see Ft Worth, Denton, sometimes even Dallas getting action and its like our situation is always light. Its like all the different places that rain/snow line can form, and its green on our side.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2858 Postby txagwxman » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:15 am

ECMWF maybe flurries DFW early New Years eve, although 850 mb temps are border line, thicknesses < 540.
2m temps in the upper 30s then dropping to 32F by midnight. Should quickly end though...doubtful DFW sees much. GFS dries it out quickly though...and wouldn't be any snow...just light rain early.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2859 Postby Portastorm » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:30 am

Well, we should have known it was too good to last! Yesterday's agreement by all medium-range models on next week has been shattered by the 0z GFS. The GFS shows a stout cold front next week blowing through Texas but it is rather dry and the subsequent weather moderates to seasonal temps and more "dry." This run of the GFS is much different than the last few 0z and 12z runs of the model. However, the Euro and Canadian both continue to show a major-league cold front for later next week and include storminess (i.e. snow/ice/cold rain) for Texas.

Let's hope this GFS run is just a hiccup and the 12z run returns to harmony and sings Kumbaya with the Euro and CMC!
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#2860 Postby txagwxman » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:50 am

I don't want a pipe buster...sorry. Plumbers might!
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