ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#841 Postby tolakram » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:46 pm

The RAMSDIS 1K floater has just moved over 92L for those wanting a closer look.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... is_floater

from: http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... opical.asp

A major fighter in impossible conditions.

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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#842 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:47 pm

There is no doubt that the Leewards,VI and Puerto Rico will not escape from this system that will bring squally weather to the NE Caribbean friday and Saturday.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#843 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:54 pm

Amazing to see this fighter. Not shocking gfs redevelops in the gulf. BTW shear has dropped over the center

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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#844 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:55 pm

There was a reason why wxman57 did not post 'Bones' yesterday. :wink:
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#845 Postby HurricaneBelle » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:15 pm

srainhoutx wrote:There was a reason why wxman57 did not post 'Bones' yesterday. :wink:


Yes, a classic case of Premature Ebonesulation.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#846 Postby canes04 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:22 pm

Question, why would they issue code yellow, but say there is a 0% chance of forming in the next 48hrs

I still think this has a shot in a few days.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#847 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:23 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:There was a reason why wxman57 did not post 'Bones' yesterday. :wink:


Yes, a classic case of Premature Ebonesulation.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

92L is still pretty impressive for June IMO...
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#848 Postby shortwave » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:23 pm

would be difficult for this to organize in the future, current trajectory will have it moving across the dominican and haiti. though shear values seem to be relaxing a bit.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#849 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:24 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Amazing to see this fighter. Not shocking gfs redevelops in the gulf. BTW shear has dropped over the center

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I noticed that too, the cloud tops are not being blown off as fast as they were earlier. Once the circulation moves in the general area of PR the shear will drop off and maybe 92L will regenerate???
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#850 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:32 pm

Hey peeps,look what is baaak!!

18 UTC Best Track

AL, 92, 2010061718, , BEST, 0, 160N, 585W, 25, 1012, WV
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#851 Postby tolakram » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:33 pm

Is that a west wind i see? :cheesy:

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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#852 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:36 pm

cycloneye wrote:Hey peeps,look what is baaak!!

18 UTC Best Track

AL, 92, 2010061718, , BEST, 0, 160N, 585W, 25, 1012, WV



Not surprised at all. With the tenacity that this disturbance has exhibited so far, it was best to not deactivate 92L.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#853 Postby Macrocane » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:37 pm

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It is still fighting but I agree that once it reaches the Caribbean it will need to be wathed for possible development, I don't think it will develop before that and at this time it seems that it is producing some outflow boundaries and that means that is still under hostile conditions.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#854 Postby Nederlander » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:41 pm

I think the NHC has pissed off 92 L lol.. he's struggling but he's certainly trying to make a name for himself... literally..
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#855 Postby jasons2k » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:43 pm

I just skimmed through the last few pages and I feel compelled to echo what some others have said.

The fact that we have not seen a named storm in the basin by June 17th surely should not be used as evidence to lower one's expectations now for a 'slower' season.

If anything, the fact that we had a Cape Verde wave almost develop in the open Atlantic (and I do think it was a TD as some have stated) should cause serious concern that the high predictions will verify after all. I have heard this from many a pro-met as well. This is a red flag if I ever saw one.

I am also becoming more concerned that 92L will be a player down the road and this isn't the last gasp of this system. As they say...stay tuned. It's going to be a very long and busy season ahead.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#856 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:50 pm

Storms completely over the center now and I'm seeing inflow channels. Amazing considering the environment

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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#857 Postby tolakram » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:53 pm

I think it's all about the problems with measuring and forecasting shear. Shear > should < increase later today and tonight, but maybe it won't. Bottom line, with improved upper air conditions we would have our first Storm.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#858 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:58 pm

The circulation is underneath the ball of convection.

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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#859 Postby tolakram » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:59 pm

Another thing I'm seeing. When looking at the visible you see upper winds moving clouds NE west of the islands, but the storm tops of 92L are blowing off in an easterly direction.

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Latest shear maps show this, but also indicate 92L should be moving under 40 to 50kts of shear. Wonder if something changed?

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And by the way, look at all the west wind reports now.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - DISCUSSION

#860 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:00 pm

I agree with other posters here, the tenacity of the circulation of 92L in my mind brings a parallel to the circulation that brought about katrina. In fact, I would say the situation is almost nearly identical.


A tropical Depression forms...hits a wall of shear and from there heads towards the Florida Straits where it gets named. Of course from this point is where the comparisons almost certainly die and that's assuming 92L gets that far.



I would love to see some Pro Met input this afternoon. Clearly 92L deserves to be mentioned in the TWO if this improvement trend continues.
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