ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION BONNIE - RECON DISCUSSION

[tronbunny]

truesms,

thanks, you've definitely clarified a few things for me.

Obs 24-
Coordinates: 22.0N 74.2W
Location: 172 miles (277 km) to the NE (38°) from Santiago de Cuba, Cuba.
Marsden Square: 080 (About)

Level Geo. Height Air Temp. Dew Point Wind Direction Wind Speed
1012mb (29.88 inHg) Sea Level (Surface) 26.8°C (80.2°F) 22.6°C (72.7°F) 60° (from the ENE) 28 knots (32 mph)
1000mb 110m (361 ft) 25.8°C (78.4°F) 22.1°C (71.8°F) 65° (from the ENE) 30 knots (35 mph)
925mb 793m (2,602 ft) 20.6°C (69.1°F) 18.9°C (66.0°F) 55° (from the NE) 35 knots (40 mph)
850mb 1,521m (4,990 ft) 16.4°C (61.5°F) 14.0°C (57.2°F) 65° (from the ENE) 36 knots (41 mph)
700mb 3,158m (10,361 ft) 8.6°C (47.5°F) 5.9°C (42.6°F) 50° (from the NE) 24 knots (28 mph)
500mb 5,870m (19,259 ft) -5.9°C (21.4°F) Approximately -16°C (3°F) 360° (from the N) 8 knots (9 mph)
400mb 7,590m (24,902 ft) -15.3°C (4.5°F) Approximately -43°C (-45°F) 105° (from the ESE) 10 knots (12 mph)
300mb 9,690m (31,791 ft) -33.3°C (-27.9°F) Approximately -51°C (-60°F) 145° (from the SE) 21 knots (24 mph)
250mb 10,940m (35,892 ft) -41.3°C (-42.3°F) Approximately -58°C (-72°F) 210° (from the SSW) 24 knots (28 mph)
200mb 12,420m (40,748 ft) -50.9°C (-59.6°F) Approximately -72°C (-98°F) 195° (from the SSW) 28 knots (32 mph)
150mb Unavailable Unavailable Unavailable 220° (from the SW) 11 knots (13 mph)


this location is the next 'home' of Invest 97L.
Doesn't look too exciting.
That combined with the wind shear map, doesn't bode well for organization...
if the actual center moves wesward at all.

The Gulstream Jet is done for tonight. Anymore recon planned tonight?

[Chris_in_Tampa]

cycloneye, where did you get that image of the plan for today's G-IV mission? I couldn't find anything like that on the NOAA AOC site.

As for some sets missing artist, my site was not updating quickly today because I thought the missions today were canceled. I was away from the computer today and heard on the news they were canceled which is why I didn't make my site update more often. The missing sets came in between the 10 minute intervals my site was checking for data. I added the missing data and have set my site to operate every 5 minutes now.

[cycloneye]

cycloneye, where did you get that image of the plan for today's G-IV mission? I couldn't find anything like that on the NOAA AOC site.

I saw it on another forum (I can't reveal which it is because of ethics) and I posted it here.

[lester]

truesms,

thanks, you've definitely clarified a few things for me.

Obs 24-
Coordinates: 22.0N 74.2W
Location: 172 miles (277 km) to the NE (38°) from Santiago de Cuba, Cuba.
Marsden Square: 080 (About)

Level Geo. Height Air Temp. Dew Point Wind Direction Wind Speed
1012mb (29.88 inHg) Sea Level (Surface) 26.8°C (80.2°F) 22.6°C (72.7°F) 60° (from the ENE) 28 knots (32 mph)
1000mb 110m (361 ft) 25.8°C (78.4°F) 22.1°C (71.8°F) 65° (from the ENE) 30 knots (35 mph)
925mb 793m (2,602 ft) 20.6°C (69.1°F) 18.9°C (66.0°F) 55° (from the NE) 35 knots (40 mph)
850mb 1,521m (4,990 ft) 16.4°C (61.5°F) 14.0°C (57.2°F) 65° (from the ENE) 36 knots (41 mph)
700mb 3,158m (10,361 ft) 8.6°C (47.5°F) 5.9°C (42.6°F) 50° (from the NE) 24 knots (28 mph)
500mb 5,870m (19,259 ft) -5.9°C (21.4°F) Approximately -16°C (3°F) 360° (from the N) 8 knots (9 mph)
400mb 7,590m (24,902 ft) -15.3°C (4.5°F) Approximately -43°C (-45°F) 105° (from the ESE) 10 knots (12 mph)
300mb 9,690m (31,791 ft) -33.3°C (-27.9°F) Approximately -51°C (-60°F) 145° (from the SE) 21 knots (24 mph)
250mb 10,940m (35,892 ft) -41.3°C (-42.3°F) Approximately -58°C (-72°F) 210° (from the SSW) 24 knots (28 mph)
200mb 12,420m (40,748 ft) -50.9°C (-59.6°F) Approximately -72°C (-98°F) 195° (from the SSW) 28 knots (32 mph)
150mb Unavailable Unavailable Unavailable 220° (from the SW) 11 knots (13 mph)


this location is the next 'home' of Invest 97L.
Doesn't look too exciting.
That combined with the wind shear map, doesn't bode well for organization...
if the actual center moves wesward at all.

Supposed to be AF recon tomorrow but don't know if that's been cancelled..

[artist]

ok, I had to step away and I can't find the archive for the rest of the obs as they are not reporting any longer on tropicalatlantic.com Anyone know where I can find them?

[clfenwi]

ok, I had to step away and I can't find the archive for the rest of the obs as they are not reporting any longer on tropicalatlantic.com Anyone know where I can find them?

Archived on tropicalatlantic.com.

[Chris_in_Tampa]

I found where that image came from before the flight. It finally crossed my mind to look at AOML rather than the AOC.

Main page:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/data_sub/hurr.html

Then:

AL97 > Aircraft missions > NOAA 49

Direct link:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Storm_page ... 721N1.html

[artist]

ok, I had to step away and I can't find the archive for the rest of the obs as they are not reporting any longer on tropicalatlantic.com Anyone know where I can find them?

Archived on tropicalatlantic.com.

thanks! I could have sworn they weren't there awhile ago!

[tronbunny]

Chris, thanks for that...
I'd thought they we're done.

[Chris_in_Tampa]

thanks! I could have sworn they weren't there awhile ago!

They were not. I added them since NOAA was releasing them too close together for my site to gather them every ten minutes. I didn't realize the mission was still on since I heard on TV that the missions today were canceled, so I didn't adjust the update interval on my site. (I keep the interval at 10 minutes when there is no activity and adjust it up to every minute depending on the activity. I don't leave it updating fast when there is no activity so that my host doesn't complain.) Next time I will not trust the TV and will check online.

[artist]

thanks! I could have sworn they weren't there awhile ago!

They were not. I added them since NOAA was releasing them too close together for my site to gather them every ten minutes. I didn't realize the mission was still on since I heard on TV that the missions today were canceled, so I didn't adjust the update interval on my site. (I keep the interval at 10 minutes when there is no activity and adjust it up to every minute depending on the activity. I don't leave it updating fast when there is no activity so that my host doesn't complain.) Next time I will not trust the TV and will check online.

I feel much better! Now I don't think my kids are right when they call me crazy!

[dixiebreeze]

Tropical Weather Statements
329
NOUS42 KNHC 211500
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1100 AM EDT WED 21 JULY 2010
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 22/1100Z TO 23/1100Z JULY 2010
TCPOD NUMBER.....10-051

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA (NORTH OF CUBA)
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 22/1800Z
B. AFXXX 02BBA INVEST
C. 22/1430Z
D. 23.0N 76.0W
E. 22/1700Z TO 21/2300Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

FLIGHT TWO -- NOAA 49
A. 23/0000Z
B. NOAA9 03BBA SURV
C. 22/1730Z
D. NA
E. NA
F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

FLIGHT THREE -- TEAL 71
A. 23/0600Z, 1200Z
B. AFXXX 0403A CYCLONE
C. 23/0300Z
D. 24.5.0N 78.5.0W
E. 23/0500Z TO 23/1200Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: BEGIN 3-HRLY FIXES AT 23/1500Z
IF SYSTEM DEVELOPS. A POSSIBLE G-IV MISSION FOR 24/0000Z

3. NOTE: THE AF MISSIONS TASKED FOR 21/1800Z, 22/06-1200Z
WERE CANX BY NHC AT 21/1130Z. THE GIV MISSION TASKED FOR
21/1730Z WILL FLY.

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
WVW

[cycloneye]

This will be the first Air force mission to investigate 97L. It departs around 10:30 AM EDT and arrives at the system around 1:30-2 PM EDT. Lets see if they close the circulation.

FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 22/1800Z
B. AFXXX 02BBA INVEST
C. 22/1430Z
D. 23.0N 76.0W
E. 22/1700Z TO 21/2300Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

[SouthFloridawx]

I guess we'll be seeing if it's a Tropical Depression or a Tropical Storm...

[cycloneye]

Here is todays TCPOD:

NOUS42 KNHC 221430
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1030 AM EDT THU 22 JULY 2010
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 23/1100Z TO 24/1100Z JULY 2010
TCPOD NUMBER.....10-052

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 75
A. 23/1500, 1800, 2100Z
B. AFXXX 0503A CYCLONE
C. 23/1200Z
D. 24.1N 80.8W
E. 23/1430Z TO 23/2100Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

FLIGHT TWO -- NOAA 49
A. 24/0000Z
B. NOAA9 0603A CYCLONE
C. 23/1730Z
D. NA
E. NA
F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

FLIGHT THREE -- TEAL 76
A. 24/0000, 0300, 0600Z
B. AFXXX 0703A CYCLONE
C. 23/2130Z
D. 25.0.0N 83.2.0W
E. 23/2300Z TO 24/0600Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

FLIGHT FOUR -- TEAL 77
A. 24/0900, 1200, 1500Z
B. AFXXX 0803A CYCLONE
C. 24/0700Z
D. 25.7N 85.6W
E. 24/0800Z TO 24/1500Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: CONTINUE 3-HRLY FIXES.

[tronbunny]

They called it "tropical Depression 3"

Here is todays TCPOD:

NOUS42 KNHC 221430
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1030 AM EDT THU 22 JULY 2010
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 23/1100Z TO 24/1100Z JULY 2010
TCPOD NUMBER.....10-052

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 75
A. 23/1500, 1800, 2100Z
B. AFXXX 0503A CYCLONE
C. 23/1200Z
D. 24.1N 80.8W
E. 23/1430Z TO 23/2100Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

[cycloneye]

Plane is on route. Who wants to post the data as I can't stay all the time?

[RL3AO]

If I remember how too...

[cycloneye]

There are many like these /// instead of 999. That is new.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pns6_2010.shtml

[tolakram]

Where are they departing from ... so I don't have to figure it our via lat/lon

BAH, Mississippi it appears.