ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION BONNIE - DISCUSSION

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1781 Postby PTrackerLA » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:00 pm

We'll we're smack dab in the cone in south LA but with no models showing much if any intensification I'm not overly concerned at all. We had a very dry first half of the year so a quick moving TS shouldn't cause too many problems in this area.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1782 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:05 pm

what are the chances of the center reforming/relocating to the north under all that convection?
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1783 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:07 pm

hurricanefloyd5 wrote:what are the chances of the center reforming/relocating to the north under all that convection?

very high .. it is doing so atm..
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#1784 Postby Frank2 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:08 pm

Any comments from the pro mets about the TUTT-like feature currently en-route to TD-3 (lol):

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1785 Postby Comanche » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:09 pm

Anybody have color from JB?
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1786 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:13 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
hurricanefloyd5 wrote:what are the chances of the center reforming/relocating to the north under all that convection?

very high .. it is doing so atm..


TD3 on vis sat looks a bit right of track. It will be interesting to see what recon finds.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1787 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:13 pm

The center is still moving well off it forecast track..

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1788 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:20 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:The center is still moving well off it forecast track..

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what are the chances of us here in central Florida get a tornado watch?????
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#1789 Postby Vortmax1 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:21 pm

That's quite a bit off Aric.
This is what I was concerned about regarding tracking.
These shifts and relocations can really mess up tracking.

Thanks for the info.
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#1790 Postby Javlin » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:27 pm

Vortmax1 wrote:That's quite a bit off Aric.
This is what I was concerned about regarding tracking.
These shifts and relocations can really mess up tracking.

Thanks for the info.



It looks to me that the ULL is the reason for the shift N for the short term.The ULL looks to be moving almost SW/SSW.TD3 has to go around cannot go through it I think it was Chantal(?) that got slingshot around an ULL into upper TX coast?
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1791 Postby StormClouds63 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:29 pm

Center does appear to be reforming significantly farther to the north. Thank goodness it's July and not August or September. I could see TD3 approaching New Orleans from the E/SE moving W/NW. A very bad scenario if a big storm, but shouldn't be an issue if the intensity forecast holds firm.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1792 Postby tolakram » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:32 pm

Poof goes the shear.

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1793 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:32 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:The center is still moving well off it forecast track..

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Is the center reforming or did it just fall apart?
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1794 Postby tolakram » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:34 pm

Looks like more moisture on the way as well, as Aric mentioned a while back.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=10
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1795 Postby Aquawind » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:34 pm

Poof goes the shear.


Ouch..My Best Friend is gone..say it ain't sooo..

It's clearly well north of the forecasted path atm..
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1796 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:35 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:The center is still moving well off it forecast track..

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Is the center reforming or did it just fall apart?

its reforming ... it may reform even farther north as long as the mid level shear keeps up.. but it looks like the mid level shear will subside soon as well.
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#1797 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:37 pm

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=108610&start=1780

What is this center reforming stuff? I still see the same center. Granted it's weak and could reform further north but that has yet to happen.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE - DISCUSSION

#1798 Postby Air Force Met » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:39 pm

Aquawind wrote:
Poof goes the shear.


Ouch..My Best Friend is gone..say it ain't sooo..

It's clearly well north of the forecasted path atm..


I think its hard to say whether or not it is well north of the points. I thought the initial location was probably too far SW to begin with. Until recon gets there and we have several fixes...its going to be difficult to say which was its moving. One thing is for sure...it will bump into the high. Whether or not you get some center relocations closer to the convection (which is likley)...the overall movement will be WNW and then W as it gets near the base of the ridge. I doubt the impacts for Fl will vary much...regardless of where the center is right now...
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#1799 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:40 pm

From the 2pm advisory:

DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
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RECENT VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW THAT THE CENTER IS A LITTLE TO
THE NORTHEAST OF THE LOCATION PREVIOUSLY INDICATED. AT 200 PM
EDT...1800 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE WAS
ESTIMATED NEAR LATITUDE 22.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 74.9 WEST.
THE
DEPRESSION HAS MOVED LITTLE DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS. HOWEVER...IT
SHOULD BEGIN TO MOVE TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 15 MPH...24
KM/HR SOON...WITH A GRADUAL INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED.
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#1800 Postby Hurricane » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:40 pm

Since the center relocated, should the track go more north?
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