ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION BONNIE - DISCUSSION

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#2121 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:40 pm

jasons wrote:Ramping-up faster than I thought it would be, that's for sure.



what do you mean jasons
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2122 Postby TheBurn » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:40 pm

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#2123 Postby Nederlander » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:40 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:ok, i'll be hibernating on this site again :).

Well 2 things. Being from Houston, i dont like our position in this cone. Possible that it swings our way still.

Secondly, do you guy REALLY think this storm will cross much of the GOM and not blossom into at least a CAT 1 or CAT 2 hurricane?

Disclaimer : Not a forecast and should not be taken as one. I'm a finance major not a MET major :)


Yeah the Gulf waters are really really warm.. but the interaction with the ULL is going to cause significant shearing problems for Bonnie unless the ULL speeds up and gets out of the way.. I think the further west Bonnie goes, the stronger it will be.. it will give the ULL more time to get out of the way so to speak..

EDIT: you are correct jinftl.. i was talking more about longterm track implications.. of course this close to the florida peninsula a slight wobble will make a big difference as far as where the center comes ashore...
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2124 Postby StormTracker » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:41 pm

Nederlander wrote:I dont think the NW motion is a trend that will continue.. Its going to make jogs and wobbles here and there.. This motion is probably due to the effects of the ULL.. I think it will start bending back to the WNW over the next few hours.. I would say this is coming in somewhere between Key Largo and Miami.. I will make Homestead my mark..

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I'm with you on that! I eluded to Homestead as a possible landfall in an earlier post! We'll see what happens!
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#2125 Postby jasons2k » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:41 pm

hurricanefloyd5 wrote:
jasons wrote:Ramping-up faster than I thought it would be, that's for sure.


what do you mean jasons


I didn't expect Bonnie until Friday...but that is going back a few days...
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#2126 Postby Countrygirl911 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:41 pm

Does anybody think this will become a hurricane if so what cat do you thin I am new to these boards
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2127 Postby antonlsu » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:42 pm

She is compacting
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#2128 Postby AdamFirst » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:43 pm

Countrygirl911 wrote:Does anybody think this will become a hurricane if so what cat do you thin I am new to these boards


I don't expect a hurricane but anything is possible. I'm thinking it's a moderate TS (50-55MPH) when it's approaching Florida
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2129 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:44 pm

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#2130 Postby jinftl » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:45 pm

There are 6+ million in florida under watches/warnings and an oil spill that Bonnie could impact long before we can assess the risk to Texas.....one thing at a time!


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TeamPlayersBlue wrote:ok, i'll be hibernating on this site again :).

Well 2 things. Being from Houston, i dont like our position in this cone. Possible that it swings our way still.

Secondly, do you guy REALLY think this storm will cross much of the GOM and not blossom into at least a CAT 1 or CAT 2 hurricane?

Disclaimer : Not a forecast and should not be taken as one. I'm a finance major not a MET major :)
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#2131 Postby Countrygirl911 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:46 pm

Everyone stay safe in FL. After it gets into the gulf what strength do you think it can get to
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2132 Postby ROCK » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:46 pm

she is compacting because she about to be crunched from the NE by the building ridge...nice Bonnie sandwich....she is moving NW now but it wont be much longer...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/flash-wv.html
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2133 Postby jasons2k » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:48 pm

It's apparent on the WV that the ULL is now really distancing itself from Bonnie...and the ULL is moving almost due west.
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#2134 Postby Nederlander » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:49 pm

Countrygirl911 wrote:Does anybody think this will become a hurricane if so what cat do you thin I am new to these boards


Probably not before its first landfall in FL.. I do think it has a shot, however, in the GOM.. As I eluded to earlier, I think if the ridge builds strong, the further west it will push Bonnie, and the further west she goes, the longer she has to ramp up, assuming the ULL races away and doesnt shear Bonnie to death.. a lot of ifs at this point.. but none of the models have been bullish on a strong system, so I will stick with them at this time, a moderate to strong TS somewhere along the central gulf coast.. just an amateur opinion
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2135 Postby Nederlander » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:52 pm

jasons wrote:It's apparent on the WV that the ULL is now really distancing itself from Bonnie...and the ULL is moving almost due west.

I agree jasons... here is a good link to see what he is talking about.. the fast it pulls away, the less shear there will be for Bonnie

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-wv.html

Edit: Also, notice that recent pop in convection on the vis image.. and this is during D-Min correct?
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#2136 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:53 pm

Nederlander wrote:
Countrygirl911 wrote:Does anybody think this will become a hurricane if so what cat do you thin I am new to these boards


Probably not before its first landfall in FL.. I do think it has a shot, however, in the GOM.. As I eluded to earlier, I think if the ridge builds strong, the further west it will push Bonnie, and the further west she goes, the longer she has to ramp up, assuming the ULL races away and doesnt shear Bonnie to death.. a lot of ifs at this point.. but none of the models have been bullish on a strong system, so I will stick with them at this time, a moderate to strong TS somewhere along the central gulf coast.. just an amateur opinion


No possible way of getting to a hurricane before it hits Forida, probably not even close.
then maybe a mid to strong tropical storm once it hits the gulf due to the forecasted shear.
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#2137 Postby Cape Verde » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:54 pm

Churning up the Gulf waters is a mixed blessing. It should break up some of the oil slicks but it's also going to push some of the oil where it hasn't been before. The path of the storm is unfortunate because it will be driving the oil toward the shoreline, not away from it.

The real story of Bonnie will be the storm surge, or the lack thereof.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2138 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:55 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:Image


hey where did all that dry air go, PWAT going to 2.6 tomorrow, that is impressive to say the least
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2139 Postby redfish1 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:55 pm

ROCK wrote:she is compacting because she about to be crunched from the NE by the building ridge...nice Bonnie sandwich....she is moving NW now but it wont be much longer...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/flash-wv.html


i agree ROCK i think we are about to start seeing more of a westerly movement real soon
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#2140 Postby supercane » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:56 pm

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New fix
A. Time of Center Fix: 22nd day of the month at 22:26:10Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 22°45'N 75°35'W (22.75N 75.5833W)

Old fix
A. Time of Center Fix: 22nd day of the month at 21:18:00Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 22°47'N 75°19'W (22.7833N 75.3167W)
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