ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

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#41 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:32 pm

That one I can see! What is the SHF5? Is the only model that doesn't make it to hurricane status in 120 hours or less...and perhaps a bit more realistic as far as strengthening goes.
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#42 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:34 pm

brunota2003 wrote:That one I can see! What is the SHF5? Is the only model that doesn't make it to hurricane status in 120 hours or less...and perhaps a bit more realistic as far as strengthening goes.


Looks like it is based off climo and persistence

SHF5 - SHIFOR intensity model 5-day (climatology and persistence) (ATL and E PAC!)
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#43 Postby KWT » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:38 pm

The SHF5 is indeed probably more realistic, so it looks like its the ultimate fusion of statistical models from the sounds of things!
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#44 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:41 pm

Euro...

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMW ... floop.html

clearly hold out till the two things merge..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#45 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:41 pm

It will be very interesting to see what the first runs by GFDL and HWRF will show (Around 7:30 PM EDT)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#46 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:03 pm

I just looked on the 12z EURO high res on the 850 vort. It does have it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#47 Postby ROCK » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:13 pm

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... 8dlm1.html


its going west for now......longer it takes the more west and the more the states come into play. First up though is the northern islands and that is concerning if I lived on one....
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#48 Postby KWT » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:15 pm

The 12z ECM is certainly complicated Aric, I think cases can be made for both ideas, this region seems to carry on slowly moving west looking at the ECM, and the wave then develops behind it, whether or not this region dies or becomes absorbed by the wave is a tough call...

The 12z also shows the shear zone quite nicely, note the ULL that is dropping into the Atlantic on this run, probably why the ECM doesn't really take it much beyond a weak system.
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#49 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:41 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:I like seeing images, not the word "image"...lmao! Looking at the quote, there is no .jpg or .gif


It is showing up on my end. Anyone else having a problem?


I just see the word "image" on some of your posts, like the one in question.
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#50 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:45 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:I like seeing images, not the word "image"...lmao! Looking at the quote, there is no .jpg or .gif


It is showing up on my end. Anyone else having a problem?


I just see the word "image" on some of your posts, like the one in question.


Yeah, I had to upload the image to a server then post it. However, some people were having a problem with the NOGAPS earlier. In that case you have to allow your browser to access the site.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#51 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:49 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#52 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:01 pm

18z GFS 48 hours...a large low pressure area. 90L does not move much in two days...

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#53 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:10 pm

Looks to really start consolidating in 4 days around 37W...850 vort confirms

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#54 Postby KWT » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:12 pm

The broad low doesn't even really get moving at 60hrs, the CMC also agrees with that idea as well...

The 18z GFS is doing some very odd things thats for sure...but as others have said it looks like the convection just waits for the wave to clear through and the ITCZ convection finally lifts out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#55 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:18 pm

126 hours

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#56 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:22 pm

144 hours

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#57 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:26 pm

This one long range looks like a threat to the east coast of Florida.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#58 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:27 pm

162, clips the NE Islands...

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#59 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:32 pm

Wow, 180 hours vort goes crazy!

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - MODELS

#60 Postby lonelymike » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:32 pm

Ivan,
Can u tell the strength of the low on the GFS run?
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