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#21 Postby Frank2 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:33 pm

LOL - those 384 hour models = 16 days = almost pure fiction (and 10% real fruit juice)...

As Wx Warrior said, I'll give that more time...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#22 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:38 pm

12z EURO 144H

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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#23 Postby hurricaneCW » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:42 pm

That would be awesome if Danielle was still here after two weeks basically circling the Atlantic. There are more dangerous threats that pop out as well, especially the Caribbean one.
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#24 Postby Florida1118 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:52 pm

hurricaneCW wrote:That would be awesome if Danielle was still here after two weeks basically circling the Atlantic. There are more dangerous threats that pop out as well, especially the Caribbean one.

It would defiantly give our ACE a boost.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#25 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:57 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:12z EURO 144H

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faster Dee moves out that high is going to fill in after and keep Earl westward...IMO...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#26 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:57 pm

168H

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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#27 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:57 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:168H

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man, I like it when I get something right..... :lol:
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#28 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:58 pm

96L follows older sister...and recurves
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#29 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:00 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:96L follows older sister...and recurves



have faith my fellow EURO hugger.... :lol:
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#30 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:00 pm

18z Tropical Models

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WHXX01 KWBC 231854
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1854 UTC MON AUG 23 2010
 
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
 
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
 
DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL962010) 20100823 1800 UTC
 
        ...00 HRS...   ...12 HRS...   ...24 HRS. ..   ...36 HRS...
        100823  1800   100824  0600   100824  1800   100825  0600
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    11.3N  17.3W   12.7N  20.0W   14.2N  23.1W   15.4N  26.5W
BAMD    11.3N  17.3W   12.6N  19.8W   14.0N  22.5W   15.5N  25.3W
BAMM    11.3N  17.3W   12.8N  20.0W   14.4N  23.1W   15.9N  26.2W
LBAR    11.3N  17.3W   12.0N  19.5W   13.3N  22.1W   14.4N  24.8W
SHIP        25KTS          33KTS          43KTS          50KTS
DSHP        25KTS          33KTS          43KTS          50KTS
 
        ...48 HRS...   ...72 HRS...   ...96 HRS. ..   ..120 HRS...
        100825  1800   100826  1800   100827  1800   100828  1800
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    16.5N  30.0W   18.0N  36.3W   19.1N  41.3W   21.0N  46.2W
BAMD    17.1N  28.0W   20.4N  33.7W   22.7N  38.5W   24.2N  41.1W
BAMM    17.3N  29.5W   19.7N  35.8W   21.2N  41.4W   22.5N  46.2W
LBAR    15.6N  27.3W   17.9N  31.9W   20.2N  35.8W   22.3N  37.2W
SHIP        57KTS          62KTS          64KTS          63KTS
DSHP        57KTS          62KTS          64KTS          63KTS
 
         ...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR =  11.3N LONCUR =  17.3W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR =   8KT
LATM12 =  11.1N LONM12 =  15.7W DIRM12 = 277DEG SPDM12 =   8KT
LATM24 =  10.9N LONM24 =  14.1W
WNDCUR =   25KT RMAXWD =   35NM WNDM12 =   20KT
CENPRS = 1007MB OUTPRS = 1010MB OUTRAD =  150NM SDEPTH =   M
RD34NE =    0NM RD34SE =    0NM RD34SW =    0NM RD34NW =   0NM
 

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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#31 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:03 pm

the high bridges momentarily but then falls apart afterwards.....if Dee is faster and scoots thru..that ridge might catch Earl.....anyway just my opinion of course....
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#32 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:54 pm

Faith for what the in stays west and threatens the islands and U.S.?
No way....it can stay out to sea and bother the fishes for all I care. IMO

ROCK wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:96L follows older sister...and recurves



have faith my fellow EURO hugger.... :lol:
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#33 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:10 pm

Looks all fishy too me!
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#34 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:22 pm

Looking at the Euro, it wouldn't take much for this to miss the weakness from Danielle and continue westward.

Euro pretty much goes straight west then turns sharply into the weakness from Danielle. Only would take Danielle moving a bit faster for the weakness to close and bam, "Earl" gets trapped on a westward heading...

Lid has come off 8-)
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#35 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:37 pm

BTW...Danielle is already moving faster than the NHC track..so that is interesting.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#36 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:41 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Yes, that is Danielle and Earl in 16 days..they combine and loop back around...


I'm tempted to say I'd eat my socks if that happens, but I don't want to have to make a youtube video ... :D
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#37 Postby Brent » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:01 pm

x-y-no wrote:I'm tempted to say I'd eat my socks if that happens, but I don't want to have to make a youtube video ... :D


:roflmao:
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Models

#38 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:12 pm

Ivanhater wrote:BTW...Danielle is already moving faster than the NHC track..so that is interesting.


yes Dee is feeling out the ridge now looking for her escape hatch...Earl might not be so lucky....more guidance is needed but I sniff a westward track and a threat....
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#39 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:27 pm

Models are not very good at breaking systems from the ITCZ and the south westerly flow that can sometimes hold a developing low relatively in place. there are many instances of this and I guess the best example would be the most recent and that just happens to be Danielle.. :)
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#40 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:43 pm

Hmmmm models do suggest a recurve but actually...shock horror...I'm not totally comfortable with that idea with 96L to be honest, esp as it will likely get sheared and possibly decouple down the line from the strong outflow from Danielle down the line.

ECM gets down to 962mbs with this one so another CV hurricane looks possible!
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