Pouch PGI45L - SW of CV Islands - (Is invest 94L)

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#101 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:44 am

wow! FL hit again according to 12Z GFS in the long range from carribean low :eek: :eek:
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#102 Postby BigA » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:45 am

The GFS consistency from run to run in developing this is noteworthy.
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#103 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:46 am

Ivan, at work so I can’t determine where this low originates from…Any idea?
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#104 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:46 am

Pretty much due north from SW Florida into Georgia..a Gulf threat is a concern

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#105 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:47 am

Not an unrealistic forecast BUT if the modelsd are right and there is a pattern change then likely the most realistic evolution would be actually something close to what 92L is doing right now.

That being said its far harder to forecast long range in late September/October then it is in say July/August simply because everything is in a state of flux.

Either way this one is IMO a real threat going forwards, I've said before that there is a very high risk of major hurricanes in the CAribbean in warm phase AMO La Nina years...I see no reason why this year will be different!
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#106 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:48 am

And finally to end the run bumps NW into the Tennessee valley. And the storms keep on rolling :wink:

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#107 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:50 am

Vortex wrote:Ivan, at work so I can’t determine where this low originates from…Any idea?


The wave coming off the coast now. The GFS has consistently split the vorticity.
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#108 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:51 am

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#109 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:52 am

There it is.

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#110 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:03 pm

The important thing to take from the recent GFS runs is that weeks prior to the CV season getting going it did well indicating the parade of storms that would follow. Now were seeing similar indications across the Carribean/Fl….Likely a good indicator of pending activity in this region.
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#111 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:37 pm

Ivanhater wrote:And finally to end the run bumps NW into the Tennessee valley. And the storms keep on rolling :wink:

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If that were to verify I would be utterly speechless, there has been NO breaks whatsoever since August 22nd it's been continuous action.
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#112 Postby wxman22 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:42 pm

Slight;ly off topic but did anyone notice how strong the trough the GFS brings down that pushes the system towards Florida? 1030mb high with the 0c line diving into the Midwest thats pretty unusual for this time of year if it were to verify ofcourse thats why its called lala land lol

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#113 Postby Macrocane » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:44 pm

:uarrow: Yeah, I don't remember such a strong cold high so early in recent years.
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#114 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:47 pm

Thats why I suspect this one will roll through the Caribbean into Mexico in the end rather then recurve into the Gulf states...but I do think the 06/12z evolutions will happen at some point in the next month even if they don't with this one....

Think the action is about to shift westwards after Julia...
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#115 Postby otowntiger » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:01 pm

Vortex wrote:wow! FL hit again according to 12Z GFS in the long range from carribean low :eek: :eek:


At least it's only a 974 mb low. That would equate to a strong cat 1 or weak cat 2, right? I think FL can handle that. 8-)
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#116 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:01 pm

i agree kwt, i dont see that big S.E. US ridge breaking until october.
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#117 Postby Macrocane » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:04 pm

:uarrow: that big would be the big relief to the heat that you have been expecting :wink:
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#118 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:12 pm

That's why if this were to pan out (highly unlikely) it would probably
be a Florida panhandle and to points eastward event. IMO


Macrocane wrote::uarrow: Yeah, I don't remember such a strong cold high so early in recent years.
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#119 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:47 pm

all the globals on the 12z run take this system north as an early recurve...it appears that part of the same vorticity splits and one part of the vorticity develops quickly and the other heads west towards the carribean without much development until it nears the carribean....




http://raleighwx.easternuswx.com/models ... SLP192.gif
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#120 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:52 pm

excellent presentation on the 12Z HWRF run of what may happen...notice the system nearing the carribean...



http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation
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