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#1021 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:42 pm

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5.3 / 965.5mb/ 97.2kt


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#1022 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:51 pm

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Re: ATL: KARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1023 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:57 pm

:uarrow:
goodness those are some cold cloud tops. should start to restrengthen rather quickly now thats its back over the warm waters of the boc.
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Re: ATL: KARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1024 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:21 am

AL, 13, 2010091606, , BEST, 0, 197N, 912W, 45, 1000, TS, 34, NEQ, 15, 15, 60, 50, 1009, 120, 10, 0, 0, L,

Up to 50 mph
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#1025 Postby bob rulz » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:15 am

It will have to start pulling north if it wants to have much time over water...
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#1026 Postby Crostorm » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:13 am

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its back on the sea
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#1027 Postby xironman » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:15 am

Is that an eye feature trying to form?

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#1028 Postby dwsqos2 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:26 am

Hour 48 of the 0Z Euro has this at 978 mb. In the deep tropics and prior to recurvature, the ECMWF's short-term pressure progs have been fairly accurate. This might be more appropriate for the model thread, but I just thought I would note it here.
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#1029 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:18 am

Karl already looking good, I see no reason why this can't strengthen upto say 90-95kts given the current trend, its already looking like its going to undergo some RI in the BoC...
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#1030 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:25 am

Recon heading in there right now, would not surprise me at all to see pressures down into the 980mbs right now and wind speeds close to hurricane force, the system looks like its in the process of RI, deep convection has blown up over the center as well...
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#1031 Postby Crostorm » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:33 am

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#1032 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:56 am

Wow...no wonder the Dvorak numbers shot upto 5.0 or so, that Microwave sure doesn't look like a system that has been overland for a while.

This one has to be a contender for RI in the next 12-24hrs...
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#1033 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:15 am

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I think Karl's RI could make it look like the eastern pacific's hurricane Darby of this year, except a little bigger. Darby rapidly intensified into a major hurricane but was incredibly tiny, could see the same thing happen with Karl.
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#1034 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:23 am

Either way I think conditions are good for Karl to really strengthen and its already clear this is on its way to hurricane status, its not if but just when and from the looks of things it's going to be sooner rather then later.
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#1035 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:45 am

71kts at flight level and 985 mbs.
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#1036 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:45 am

ell as expected recon has found some impressive winds, 70-71kts at FL probably does justify an upgrade....and if its not a hurricane now its going to be a matter of hours before it is!

I think the chances for this coming into landfall as a top end 2/3 is increasing rapidly this morning, some people are going to be surprised to see just how good Karl looks!
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#1037 Postby plasticup » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:55 am

The Yucatan is so flat, so hot, and so wet that I wonder whether the powerful transpiration was fueling Karl in the way that evaporation powers a storm over the ocean. Obviously the water isn't as dense in vegetation as it is in the ocean, but the jungle has a much larger surface area from which it can evaporate.

For the curious, Tropical Storm Fay did something similar in 2008 over southern Florida: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... o_0045.gif
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Re: ATL: KARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1038 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:59 am

Breaking News

TROPICAL STORM KARL TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL132010
700 AM CDT THU SEP 16 2010

...AIR FORCE AIRCRAFT FINDS KARL STRONGER...SPECIAL ADVISORY
FORTHCOMING...

RECENT DATA FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT
INDICATE THAT TROPICAL STORM KARL HAS MAXIMUM WINDS OF NEAR
65 MPH...100 KM/HR...AND A MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 986 MB...
29.12 IN.

A SPECIAL ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED SHORTLY IN LIEU OF THE 700 AM
CDT...1200 UTC INTERMEDIATE PUBLIC ADVISORY.

SUMMARY OF 700 AM CDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
--------------------------------------------------
LOCATION...19.6N 92.1W
ABOUT 105 MI...170 KM W OF CAMPECHE MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...65 MPH...100 KM/HR
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 285 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/HR
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...986 MB...29.26 INCHES

$$
FORECASTER STEWART/BEVEN

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#1039 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:08 am

I'm a bit surprised they didn't go a little higher actually but they clearly believed the winds hadn't quite caught up with the wind speeds just yet...

I'm willing to bet the next forecast cycle from the NHC have Karl making landfall as a category-2 now...
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#1040 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:08 am

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