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#1221 Postby Buck » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:19 am

I think Alex is definitely retired and there is a distinct possibility that Igor's impending impact on Bermuda will be severe enough to warrant retirement (let's hope not). Karl could catch a lot of people off guard. I hope they are prepared for this crazy guy.
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Re: ATL: KARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1222 Postby stormhunter7 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:25 am

Yall did see that sonde Observation Number: 20 hit 113mph at surface just before splash Location: 19.7N 94.69W
Splash Time: 3:51:55Z... was west of eye at time of drop
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#1223 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:26 am

The population of Veracruz is about 460,000 in the city and about 730,000 in the metropolitan area.
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Re: ATL: KARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1224 Postby stormhunter7 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:26 am

New and last vortex...
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 967mb (28.56 inHg)
L. Eye Character: Closed, RAGGED WALL
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 12 nautical miles (14 statute miles)
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Level: 700mb
O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile
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Maximum Wind Outbound: 105kts (~ 120.8mph) in the northeast quadrant at 5:09:30Z
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 105kts (~ 120.8mph) in the northeast quadrant at 5:09:30Z
Maximum Surface (likely estimated by SFMR) Wind Outbound: 86kts (~ 99.0mph) in the northeast quadrant at 5:08:50Z
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Re: ATL: KARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1225 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:27 am

is recon going to fly in there one more time before it makes landfall?
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Re: ATL: KARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1226 Postby HurricaneBill » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:32 am

Here's a map of the Mexican state of Veracruz. This region is where Karl is forecasted to landfall.

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Re: ATL: KARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1227 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:37 am

is the city veracruz the only region that is very populated in that state?
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#1228 Postby Buck » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:41 am

1pm CDT... 105mph, 967mb
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#1229 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:42 am

Buck wrote:1pm CDT... 105mph, 967mb


you mean 1 am.
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#1230 Postby bob rulz » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:59 am

105?? Really?? Observations definitely support higher than that, 110 at least.
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Re: ATL: KARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1231 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:04 am

imo karl will be a cat 3 with the 4 am advisory. looking very good on satellite tonight.
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#1232 Postby canes101 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:35 am

Buck wrote:I think Alex is definitely retired and there is a distinct possibility that Igor's impending impact on Bermuda will be severe enough to warrant retirement (let's hope not). Karl could catch a lot of people off guard. I hope they are prepared for this crazy guy.

Alex retired??
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#1233 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:36 am

yeah its very close to cat 3. satellite presentation is quite impressive. if the next recon can get there before landfall.
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#1234 Postby canes101 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:42 am

I could DEFIANTLY see him reaching Major status before landfall. I think he is super close to it right now. He certainly looks stronger then the 105 reported imo
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#1235 Postby canes101 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:44 am

Recon just left Karl?? And all they found was 105mph?
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Re: ATL: KARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1236 Postby canes101 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:45 am

Those are super cold cloud tops, and a tight system for 105...

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#1237 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:48 am

canes101 wrote:Recon just left the Karl?? And all they found was 105mph?


yeah but the winds take time to respond and the cloud pattern is basically unmistakable.
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Re: ATL: KARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1238 Postby Epsilon_Fan » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:51 am

Didn't our "A" storm this season (sorry forgot the name) undergo RI just a few hours before landfall? I remember it looking best immediately after landfall and we were thankful that it didn't have 6 more hours over water. We'll be saying the same thing about Karl. I think both were little tiny storms too.
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#1239 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:53 am

using the latest satellite techniques I know. that is a major hurricane by radar and satellite estimates anyway..
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Re: ATL: KARL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1240 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:54 am

Epsilon_Fan wrote:Didn't our "A" storm this season (sorry forgot the name) undergo RI just a few hours before landfall? I remember it looking best immediately after landfall and we were thankful that it didn't have 6 more hours over water. We'll be saying the same thing about Karl. I think both were little tiny storms too.


it was alex this year. alex was pretty big and it did go under some ri right before landfall. pretty similar location too, karl just a little further south
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