ATL: MATTHEW - Ex-Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#821 Postby otowntiger » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:07 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:So much uncertainties with Matthew.

Scenarios:
1.) Makes landfall on Central America and dies off.
2.) Heads for Florida.
3.) Goes to the Gulf of Mexico.
4.) Lingers over the Caribbean and becomes a monsterous hurricane.

None are enticing.
Well #1 is certainly much less troublesome, that is if it doesn't get too strong before landfall.
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#822 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:17 pm

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#823 Postby DanKellFla » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:21 pm

I give up. In 24 hours the models should start to make sense. At this point, we are guessing about guesses.
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#824 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:23 pm

we could see a hurricane tomorrow sometime.. I said earlier that we are very likely to see rapid intensification given the synoptics and heat content...
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#825 Postby artist » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:24 pm

the 11 pm discussion should be interesting...
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#826 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:25 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:we could see a hurricane tomorrow sometime.. I said earlier that we are very likely to see rapid intensification given the synoptics and heat content...


But Aric, will it gain latitude before Nicaragua,or is inevitable the landfall there?
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#827 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:26 pm

CDO in the process of forming as we speak...very deep convection is firing -80C over the center....
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#828 Postby Typhoon_Willie » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:27 pm

That is indeed the question... :uarrow: Will it lift north enough?
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#829 Postby psyclone » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:27 pm

i wonder if the northeast hook will disappear on the 11pm track. it will be interesting to see what they do and how they handle intensity.
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#830 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:28 pm

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#831 Postby Aquawind » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:29 pm

Vortex wrote:CDO in the process of forming as we speak...very deep convection is firing -80C over the center....



Yes it looks like a solid core with deep convection..
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#832 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:30 pm

it should be just about on the NE part of honduras at this time tomorrow.
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#833 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:31 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:we could see a hurricane tomorrow sometime.. I said earlier that we are very likely to see rapid intensification given the synoptics and heat content...


But Aric, will it gain latitude before Nicaragua,or is inevitable the landfall there?


It is likely to interact with Nicaragua regardless, I was referring to the over night and tomorrow before it landfall for RI. the NE coast of Nicaragua is quite flat and it will depend on how far inland the circulation gets.
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#834 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:32 pm

looks like it may crash and burn in Central America (Nicaragua)..............?

Could just bury itself in Central America and end up not being a threat to the CONUS afterall.....
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#835 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:33 pm

Looking at the current and forecasted stering flow matt should continue at about the same speed(15-17mph) through friday evening...Then slow to 10-12mph saturday and maybe a near stall saturday night/sunday....
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#836 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:38 pm

gatorcane wrote:looks like it may crash and burn in Central America (Nicaragua)..............?

Could just bury itself in Central America and end up not being a threat to the CONUS afterall.....


Well you could be right, this one could just bury itself inland, the next one will probably be a completely different story.
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#837 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:41 pm

This will help some see the evolution of the steering and the ridge. if you notice it has been sliding east the last few days the western edge is being weakened by the approaching trough. the ridge should continue to shift slowly east allowing matthew to turn wnw soon then slow down.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real ... 2java.html
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#838 Postby otowntiger » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:42 pm

It seems to me that there are 3 postive things happening here (as I see them and I'm no expert so take with a grain of salt):
1. The storm is moving very quickly. It may not give itself enough time to really strengthen. Generally (but not always) storms that move very fast are less likely to rapidly intensify because it enhances the wind shear. but regardless it could make landfall before it has a chance to really deepen.
2. It doesn't seem to be gaining any lattitude. If it doesn't, then it will plow headlong into northern or even central Nicaraugua and get ripped to shreds.
3. It seems that a majority of the models have it diving deep into CA/Mex headed sw keeping it away from the GOM.
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#839 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:43 pm

Btw Nam on the 00z takes it west and leaves a very energetic sw carribean behind....as Ivan mentioned earlier this may actually become the threat to the US that has been hinted at by several models....
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#840 Postby Sanibel » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:44 pm

Despite the low track-look NHC trop points still call for a clip of Honduras and onto Belize as a hurricane. Watch out, that Gulf of Honduras can power storms once it emerges back over water. The structure is tightening to a tight little black IR bursting CDO.
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