cycloneye wrote:Gusty,have things returned to normal in the butterfly island after those floods?
Hi Luis, yeah things returned to normal in Guadeloupe, thanks my God

. I check you the latest updates concerning this tragic episod

from our news website Franceantilles.fr. Concerning the death toll looks like this episod was so tragic! (5 dead) compared to Hurricane Hugo 1989 in Guadeloupe (4 dead). This number is the higher (hope i'm wrong but i've made many researches

) since Hugo in terms of death ... HURTING

Whereas i'm glad proud and happy to confirm you that one of my friend has escaped from these nasty floodings! Thanks to its strong self-control maybe associated to its job (he's an airplane pilot at Air Caraibes Guadeloupe, he travels often at St Barth, St Marteen, his name is Gilles Zelbin, view one of the articles i posted below). He told me that he swims more than 25 minutes against the strong intensity of the floods!!! He stays each minute pretty confident, hoping for the best! That was a very scary moment worst than escape from a crash given its words

! Amazing and incredible story, i was so happy to see my friend Gilles safe but not dry (see pic associated to the article intituled: ROBERT and GILLES, stories of two might). Hopefully the outcome was

thanks to LORD
Tribute to Robert NoyonHarry MAPOLIN France-Antilles Guadeloupe 08.01.2011
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After the loss of the waters of Doubs Chazeau. Robert Noyon, 38 years old, the first of five victims of rising waters Tuesday night to be buried, was entitled to poignant tributes, yesterday afternoon. A large crowd accompanied his remains first in the chapel of Fatima, that he was attending family and then to the cemetery of Morne-to-l'Eau. He was a man helpful, generous, available for all and love mechanics, said different facts testimonies to the Chapel and in private. France-Caribbean address condolences to his family and relatives.
A last service to Robert
Brothers Robert and close friends took to carry his coffin, a way for them to make a last service to one who was always willing to help others or receive them in his house or his garage.
Rony gave moving testimony to his brother
(Sylvère SELBONNE) "My brother was good." It was helpful, it was very devoted to her family, and he had a great passion for welding and mechanical. This area was a great among the great. "I always alongside his children and his wife", Rony, the brother of the deceased testified.
Lovers of beautiful cars have lost their favorite welder
(Sylvère SELBONNE) A procession of cars Subaru formed for express recognition that lovers of beautiful cars he wear the deceased. Because this welder was always available for repairs and advice.
A family overwhelmed by sentencing
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Myriam, wife of Robert and his two children Natacha and Anthony had a hard time to realize that this family father who was so good for them is gone forever.
A final blessing for her husband
(Sylvère SELBONNE) Myriam Noyon, née Boucher, overrun by sorrow for her husband the gesture of blessing with the belief that all they will review a day as directed by the Christian doctrine.
Too small Fatima Chapel
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The chapel of Fatima in the mould Grands-Fonds was too small to contain the crowd. Wife of Robert and his children who are part of the choir of the chapel held ceremony will be in this place of worship Robert attended itself.
Robert was very believer
(Sylvère SELBONNE) The Gillot father and father Cylène which commits the coffin knew Robert Noyon whose son is clergy in the chapel. On January 1, Robert attended mass with the whole family.
Death brings men
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Front of the Chapel, a kind of prophecy is achieved. Socialist men who are not in the best terms in recent times found themselves in the same circle of discussion, Eric Jalton, Deputy-Mayor of les Abymes, Senator Daniel Marsin and Victorin Lurel, President of the region.
Cycling club Center pedal has rendered tribute
(Sylvère SELBONNE) Young Central pedal cyclists, club which belongs Anthony, the son of Robert and which the latter was himself a member a few years ago, made a last tribute to the deceased.
Solidarity biker
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Bikers had from time to time to repair their pots of exhaust in the garage of Robert who was always available. They accompanied the funeral procession in solidarity with Rony is a lover of the motorcycle.Namely
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Due to damage caused by significant rain on 4 and 5 January 2011 on agricultural activities of Guadeloupe, is now quickly make their assessment. To this end, a fact-finding mission is installed immediately. Comprising representatives of unions, agricultural organisations, the Chamber of agriculture and administration, she collect information and findings of loss to assess global impacts for each of the channels. Posted aims to transmit an expert's report at the latest within a month and a half at the Department of the overseas. This report will be previously presented and discussed with agricultural organisations.
In light of this report, the Minister of him overseas decide the intervention of the relief fund which will allow the capture of the prefectoral recognizing the nature of the agricultural disaster and open up the individual claims filing period. Operators will be then informed by.
(Ü) State services are responsible for coordinating these expertises and to keep track of this procedure will be conducted in the most diligent manner possible.
As regards the first phase (comprehensive assessment of damage), fact-finding mission will move from a large sample of farms affected this during the next 15 days.
"All operators to benefit from compensation rights are fully preserved at the end of this first phase of overall evaluation mission cannot clearly travelling on all holdings." "Is that in the phase of individual statement that everyone will have to establish his claim according to instructions to be provided at that time", informed, yesterday the Prefecture.[size=200]LES ABYMES
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Another bridge of Doubs, a team of national television took pictures. (H. M.) Following the death of five people, washed away by water. In the aftermath of the death of five people washed away by water from a 4 x 4 vehicle attempting to cross a small bridge to Chazeau Doubs, submerged by water torrential Tuesday evening, Jean-Bart family prepares the funeral of his three missing members. "Everything will be here." "La veillée, this Friday night and the religious ceremony tomorrow, Saturday", explains Mauril Shipworm, the municipal councillor of Ward, indicating hand space that officers of the technical service of the city are 1,328,000. It lies between the houses of the brothers Jean-Bart, Harry elder, 59 years old, and his brother Vilar said Chaben and his wife Huguette, born Guicheron. Just a small strip of lawn separates these two homes where children, parents and relatives activate and try to deal with to evacuate the grief. All wait for the arrival of body, when both anticipated and so feared. When confirming that this is not a bad dream.
Why them? Why this family? All questions relatives and that still remain unanswered.
Phones stop ringing. Calls come from everywhere. Comfort messages are numerous. Friends and neighbors who have left the scene later than the day before, returned the morning to go to work. Those available are there, ready to lend a hand. "Over time, it would already made an Arbour, from wood cut in the forest." "It would have already made benches to make people sit", noted, nostalgic, a man of a certain age. Today, things have changed. The city has already made plastic chairs. A team of agents monte capitals of the other side of the street, while another team installs an electric lamp with a tower. One of the sons of the deceased steals a wheelbarrow and helps agents expand bitumen, history of caring. Visitors continue to arrive and each tries to find a word of comfort for families.
Some use drinking among the bottles on a table at the end of the porch. But these "small blows" will never have the same taste than those offered Harry and Vilar friends in times of feast and especially the day of the year. Now in the neighbourhood there is a front and a weighing after.
Les Abymes technical service team is working to prepare the place of the ceremony. (H. M.)The 4 x 4 was away Tuesday night, then qu he crossed a bridge in Doubs, les Abymes.Many motorists to renege on the bridge where the tragedy took place.-One of the victims buried today
Robert Noyon, age 38, father of two teenagers, one of the victims of this tragedy will be credited in Earth this afternoon. The religious ceremony will take place at 4 p.m., at Fatima, the mould Grands-Fonds chappelle. Funeral Jules Amédée Féliciane, another victim, aged 42, living section Chazeau Doubs will be held at a later date.-THEY SAID...
EULOGIUS ALFRED, PARENT of the family: "I saw them grow, I married sister.
I married the sister of Harry and Vilar Jean-Bart. I live just behind them. When I got married, Harry was even not yet born, so I saw them grow. Really, it did not expect such drama. Each year, we celebrate the new year's day. But this year Harry was not there. It was her niece in Guyana. He returned Monday night during heavy rains and he died Tuesday evening. In the morning, I saw him heal his chickens, we talked about.
MAURIL SHIPWORM, CONSEILLER MUNICIPAL: I thank those who support us. "
In the area, we are one big family. We are in solidarity in good and bad times. These three people were killed in a family endured throughout the area and even the entire city of les Abymes. I believe that the Mayor will declare a day of mourning. Death is made to reconcile men. For the people of Boricaud, I thank all those who support us, among other Mayor and especially the logistics team and team coated who agreed to work while on leave, to the vicinity of the two family homes.
DANIEL VINDEX, PARENT of the family: "it was my cousins".
It is Harry that we used to celebrate the new year's day. Harry and Vilar were my cousins, we grew up together. Vilar has lived a long time as a metropolis, but Harry has always remained here, we were often together. I accompanied him in the pitts, it was a great lover of cock fighting, but he was also a very helpful man. In the neighbourhood, it was a reference. It will be difficult to get accustomed to his absence.
BREVIL THICOT, A friend of the family: "A big empty".
Harry was my Sidekick. I am the godfather of his eldest son, this reflects the great friendship there was between us. We've often together with our respective spouses. Wherever he was, he felt, it was a good living. He also put people at ease. He often told me that he would not like his wife dies before him, because without it he could not live. With these deaths, we now have a great vacuum in the neighbourhood. We are struggling to turn.-ÉRIC JALTON EVOKES THE STATE OF NATURAL DISASTER
After flooding on January 3, 4 and 5 Deputy-Mayor of the city, Éric Jalton seized the competent authorities so that recognition of the State of natural disaster. This procedure will allow the concerned insurance compensation. A census is already proceedings. Deputy Mayor here reiterates this call for declaration of all those affected by the disaster.EARLY LESSONS FROM FLOODS ARE DRAWN
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In such circumstances, a Minister should not skimp on ways to learn. (Dominique Chomereau-Lamotte) Lessons from floods, respond to short, medium and long term: it was the objective of the meeting chaired yesterday by the Minister of the overseas.
Marie - Luce Penchard brought, yesterday morning, in the Sub-Prefecture of Pointe-à-Pitre, the mayors of most affected by weather - Les Abymes, Morne-to-l'Eau, Saint-François- and chiefs of services of the State concerned. This meeting had a twofold objective: firstly, an update on the situation in the affected municipalities and take stock of the damaged structures, on the other hand, work in the long term. "We have mainly discussed the merits of things, because we must draw lessons from this event, explained the Minister of the overseas." It is the responsibility of the authorities public both locally and nationally. ".
"Let's shorten deadlines."
In the short term, the ball is essentially local camp. "For works which must be completed as soon as possible, it can be very hard a partnership between region and Department, offers Ms. Penchard. Subsequently, if State collaboration is necessary, should enjoy the fact that we are the operational programme mid-term: the European commission will review where we are contracts state-region-Europe and we can take this opportunity to register as a priority works which must be completed in the coming years. ".
Beyond of these problems of works, the question regarding wastewater and storm water management gave rise to a wide-ranging debate. "It considerably spoke responsibility of each and others to the flushing of rivers." The issue is complex. Local authorities already assume their responsibilities, the State assumes its own. But it raises the question of the establishment of a number of schemes which currently do not exist. "Decision was taken very quickly determine what the basins of rivers concerning several communes - which require therefore a concerted community and services of the State - then plan operations in the coming year standing in the long term.
"But it does not mean, however, that we will not act immediately", said Marie - Luce Penchard, which evokes such damage caused in the agricultural sector: in certain sectors - notably Saint-François-75% of surfaces are affected. "I ask that it minimizes delays." Farmers will be encouraged to make themselves known Directorate of agriculture in a way that in a month and a half, I have a report in order to trigger of agricultural disaster to compensate affected farmers. ".
-"Relief fund may be engaged".
"Communal social action centres mobilized to help families, note the Minister." If an additional need is expressed, the State relief fund may be hired. But we're not here: mayors have taken these situations with stigmata. It should be noted in this regard, the Guadeloupians are responsible, are supported and are not specific intervention seeking. Furthermore, the initiation of the procedure of natural disaster for the involved communes will enable individuals to play their insurance. » Board of EXPERT - How driving on flooded roads?
These latter-day torrential resulted in multiple car crashes. What is the course for flooded roads? Lighting Yves Pineau, managing a pointois garage.
Yves Pineau Manager of garage Pineau Meca to Bergevin at Pointe-à-Pitre: "people who don't know where air intake on their vehicle should not take risk." (S B)
"Everything is a matter of air intake", launches Yves Pineau Manager of garage Pineau Meca to Bergevin at Pointe-à-Pitre. Indeed, all cars are are not hoarded in the same fashion when it comes to roll in the water. "Before embarking on a good depth of water, a motorist needs to know where his pipe for air intake, explains the garage." Based on the brand of the vehicle, this pipe can be found in height under the hood or much further down behind the front bumper. "In the latter case, the driver takes the risk damaging its engine by passing in the water. Indeed, if the pipe is in contact with water, the engine will inevitably suck it. And unlike the air, water is compressible by the piston. Consequences: when the piston goes back, the rod may be broken or damaged resulting in damage to the engine. "When the Rod has just twisted, it is still possible to catch the shot, says specialist." "However, if it is broken, the block is corrupted, it change engine". Indicative, nine motor costs between 4000 and 5000 euros and can reach the 18000 euros for top range cars. Conclusion: "people who don't know where air intake on their vehicle should not take risk." For those who know, it is possible to divert or elevate the pipe momentarily to cross water without fear. 4X4s have an advantage on this point since they are highest at the base.
"Do not restart".
"But beware, some vehicles show failures, particularly at the level of sensors, a few days after having been in contact with water.
But once it is committed in the water, what conduct should be adopted? "The best is to ride in a stabilized regime." Isn't the sentence change report, slow down or speed up. Best is to drive slowly in the 1st or in second by avoiding going too fast. One way to avoid splashing other and limit damage in case of deep ruts, says Yves Pineau. However, engine hold should not attempt to restart, could exacerbate the damage to the engine. "Should leave the car and get out as soon as possible. Then, it is strongly recommended to move closer to a specialist who will assess the damage. In case of disposal of the vehicle, not until the door, there is little chance that it can roll again. "With any electronics that there are now about cars, such incidents is fatal." "Experts categorize these elsewhere as a wreck, they don't want to take risks because damage will be too large."-THEY SAID...
ÉRIC JALTON MP and Mayor of ABYMES: "of interesting ideas.
(Dominique Chomereau-Lamotte)I had claimed a prevention plan risk flood, we just live in order to prevent tragedies like that. My appeal seems to have a few echoes at the State level that offers some features in the short, medium and long term.
In the short term, to deal with damage on housing and agriculture. On the ground, which takes much to heart, is announced a companion - but at what level? -on the small works, including public and private bridges on some gullies, works which are to recalibrate, or even rebuild to mitigate the risk. Over the longer term, the idea of a gathering of all partners and institutions that deal with the various streams and channels maintenance seems to me a very interesting idea, which I fully supported, just like that of bringing the financing of large works for the operational programme.
In les Abymes, we estimated the damage repair and upgrading infrastructure likely to prevent this type of risk or even 4, 3, 5 million euros.
Jean-Claude LOMBION Mayor of MORNE-À - water: "intercommunale solidarity."
(Dominique Chomereau-Lamotte)"This meeting is a good thing, but I consider that the mayors of concerned must rely on themselves to rely on outside, even if State intervention and major communities must accompany the Commons to prevent this type of situation and find a timely solution to address these issues."
Two million euros, is the invoice to Morne-to-l'Eau, if you want to minimize flooding hazard. There are more important than other things. About Perrin, for example, must be a structure that will cost at least EUR 600000. But as this sector are also interested in les Abymes, let's see what we can do together. It seems to me essential that Commons which are adjacent and who have the same issues of flooding the gullies and channels work together. » -Insurance: what does do?
Damaged cars, flooded houses... Heavy rains from the beginning of week have left traces. Can insurance cover everything? Not so sure.
Those who have damaged their vehicle floods have to worry. According to an agency of insurance brokers "there is no guarantee natural disaster for vehicles. "Insured persons"all risks"are covered for any accident," explained Councillor. However, an accident is an impromptu and unforeseeable event and floods are not considered as such. "Therefore, them convey damaged during floods are the responsibility of the owner. Only consolation, if these people agreed to guarantee assistance, they will not pay the troubleshooting and a rental car will be loaned. Exceptional situations, it will be the assessment of each insurance. "A commercial gesture is still possible," said Councillor.
TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS
Concerning housing, victims must be insured for consequential relief. Tenants must have purchased insurance comprehensive housing (which is mandatory). Owner has two choices: owner not occupying insurance which guarantees the property (roofing, exterior or in the case of a rental furniture) or mutlirisque home insurance which guarantees it furniture and real estate where he lives at home. Disaster, several steps are critical: it must first take "precautionary measures", i.e. the need to attempt to protect the maximum risk so the situation does not worsen. If order of sites is inevitable before the passage of an adjuster (between three and eight days of delay), is obviously advisable to take a maximum of pictures of the disaster and contact less than five days after his insurance facts. To handle the case and lead the disbursement of funds (the company has four months to do), the expert must collect a certain number of pieces: pictures, valuables and specifications for repair bills. However, all contracts are not identical and do not necessarily cover the risks. It is therefore important to check that appear risks: water runoff, flood, natural disaster and tidal wave. The publication of the Decree of natural disaster will certainly facilitate compensation subject to not exceed ten days.Weather. Back to green for Guadeloupe
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Cloud front is disaggregated and should no longer give a few flurries residual, less frequent and less sustained. With the relative lull in these past 12 hours, the recession is underway in flooded areas.Rising waters. Why what happened?
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Exceptional event true, but according to Jack Sainsily, Director of the Board of architecture, urbanism, and l'environnement (CAUE), and Bertrand Masur, CEO Deputy of infrastructure and transport of the Regional Council, obey planning documents and stop building along the shoreline and at high-risk locations.
JACK SAINSILY Director of the Board of ARCHITECTURE, d'urbanisme ET DE L'ENVIRONNEMENT (CAUE): "it fails the rules contained in the planning documents.
"The establishment of a master plan development and management of water (SDAGE) is underway.". This device is intended to support the distribution of drinking water, but also maintains water sewerage and rain waters. 2007 Legislation proposed implementing stormwater management when building permits deposits. Today, on a duty of channelling of rainwater, manage, treat them before discharge into the public domain. Legacy of a story, a number of planning documents (plans, land-use plans premises of urbanism) 1980s, and need to manage spontaneous habitat problems with undivided, etc.
Overall, land (Pos) plans noncompliance is built on dry streams, gullies, etc. Communities closed their eyes here above. Permits are granted without that there is a serious consideration of soil morphological reality. Mouth nozzles, it does not respect the rules contained in the planning documents. Rain waters are dismissed en masse on the pavement and gutters and is not clearing correctly. Channel of the Raizet was an open channel, Vatable Street was a small gutter channel. All waters of the Grands-Fonds de Sainte-Anne, les Abymes foothills are channelled to Pointe-à-Pitre and move toward the sea by channels including that of Perrin. It is worse but can hold them, reduce the calibration.
It must therefore be put in place a true blueprint. It is obvious that the impoundment shall have a prominent place in the local Commons (PLU) urban plan. Les Abymes, one of the most affected communes, shall in its PLU consider basins that naturally exist to Perrin, Boisripeaux, basin basin of Golden Peak, etc. This is valid for the Basse-Terre, Rivière-des-pères, etc.
Popular unconsciousness, who wanted that I build on the ground that me had been bequeathed, is gone. In bon père de famille, cannot do anything. We must stop the spontaneous habitat along the shores. ".
BERTRAND MASUR CEO Deputy of infrastructure and transport SERVICES of the Regional Council: "nature is stronger, it is necessary to adapt."
"Case was an exceptional event." 150 millimetres of water per square metre, is enormous. At the time of the passage of Hurricane Jeanne, in 2004, he fell 200 millimetres of water per square metre. Exceptional overlapping of rain were recorded in the areas in question. There are recurring problems: the natural topography of the ground, the major drainage, etc. Always there climbs to water flooding in these places. The area of Morne-à - water was built due to washouts, deposits of materials. These are locations, by nature, exposed. The behavior of each and others often is for something. It happens that it undervalues the risk. However, nature is the greatest, must adapt. Highway EBIT impacted, it is the secondary road network. It serves areas, sections, etc. These roads are not designed by modern engineering. These are local channels are the legacy of a story. Originally from dirt roads that became communal, routes of highways. Communities conduct, according to their financial ability, upgrades, and recalibrages by improving drainage, the drainage etc. Colossal work should be to overcome the problems of the Grands-Fonds.
Must be respected (PBD) risk prevention plans. Everyone has a role to play: State, major communities, Commons for privacy and security of populations. We combine our efforts on large projects. Must be vigilant, and not to take risk. Do not hesitate to lose four minutes or more to make a detour or wait. ".
-3 QUESTIONS was Jean-Yves LAMBERT DIRECTION DÉPARTEMENTALE equipment: "flood risks are clearly identified.
How can flooding still surprise us?
The set of plans for preventing risks (PBD) on Guadeloupe, apart from the Saintes and Marie-Galante, is validated. Abymes and Morne-to-l'Eau, these plans are validated since September 2008. Among other things, it means that these plans are considered for any application for authorization of urbanism.
Is flood risk studied?
These PPR are comprehensive plans and flood risk is taken into account. Specifically, in the development of PPR des Abymes, specific hydraulic study was conducted by a specialty Board. The aim of this study was to understand and describe the functioning of sector gullies become torrents soon. The PPR takes into account the risk here. If you look at the PPR sector map, you'll find a myriad of beds of ravines and rivers is red, and flood risks they are clearly identified.
Yet the damage are...
Once the event occurs, among other areas: prevention, crisis management, communication, municipal emergency plan... It is the policy domain. And then, prevention, it is also a personal approach, a matter of prudence.
"Channel line is not at issue.
Technical services of the city of les Abymes, it defends that default flushing Canal is responsible for the rise of water. "Part of the flushing is supported by the city and another is made by the region taking on his own account the jurisdiction of the State. The city voted 30,000 euros in budget 2010 for the dredging of channels. "With allocations of the two local assemblies, General Council and Regional Council are 1.2 million euros were invested in the curages of les Abymes channels this year", says Max Biabiany, Director, technical centre of the city.
Regional Council launched a multi-annual programme of restoration and maintenance work on 34 streams in Guadeloupe. In this context, several channels flushing operations started Chazeau, Petit-Peru, the Raizet Besson, three months ago. Doubs where the tragedy occurred at work is well advanced. Flushing system provided by the region program also covers: Royal Palace, canal lapsed ravine, the ravine carrack, Nérée Ravine contended Directorate of technical services. Always from the same source the following details are given: "Unfortunately, there are natural phenomena which cannot do much." With the flow of water, there is an intake of plants and sometimes old materials which obstruct nozzles and causes a rise in water. This area of the city drains much water comes from Sainte-Anne and the Grands-Fonds and we have a habitat that has developed in the vicinity of these streams. Was also adapted road Habitat already in place, without being able to take into account water gullies. In addition, there also riparian clog the pipes. The combination of these factors causes the unfortunate effects that we know. »OVERNIGHT TRAGICFrance-Antilles Guadeloupe 06.01.2011
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Five deaths. Yesterday morning, Guadeloupe woke shocked learn the deaths of five people trapped in floods caused by heavy rains that fell on Tuesday archipelago.
Tuesday night which was seen as a huge mess on roads and great misery for people submerged by the waters suddenly turned to drama. In the evening, a 4 x 4 was reported swept by waters, les Abymes, section Chazeau Doubs. It is in an attempt to cross a Ford with its 4 x 4 that a motorist with four passengers on Board was swept by violent waves.
It must be said that the weather was particularly fierce Tuesday. 250 litres of water per m2 in just under 24 hours! Memory meteorologist, it does not remember registering such a flood in the region. These torrential rains which amassed any Tuesday afternoon in les Abymes Grands-Fonds have dissected to form real torrents surprised drivers at the time where most of them were returning home.
Among them, five Abymiens who knew yet this Guadeloupe as the Palm of their hand. Parties to rescue a member of their family, they have not imagined that their powerful 4x4s could be carried away by the fury of the waters. And yet. A habitué of the scene says that the place is not deemed particularly dangerous: "the channel has been maintained not so long ago." From loaders came dredge water at this location. "But as explained a waterfront"water is mounted very quickly.
Residents section also attended the drama and quickly alerted relief which came quickly to sites. But the irreparable arrived. Towards an hour in the morning, firefighters have recovered three bodies in the 4 x 4. Ceux those Harry Bernis Jean-Bart, his brother, Villard Jean-Bart, and his wife, Huguette Jean-Bart, born Guicheron - all originating from Boricaud (Les Abymes). Colonel Bazir men had to stop for the night and weather research. They resumed, yesterday morning, at dawn. And sad news continued to recite. Aquatic rescuers of the Sdis have recovered Jules Félicianne between 7: 30 a.m. and 8 hours. Then worms 10 hours, is the body of Robert Noyon was drawn on the Bank of Doubs.
Whenever a terrible test for families busied a thin thread of hope. Each time a hard blow for Les Abymes, municipality of Eric Jalton who will have paid the heaviest toll this disaster. In this section of the Grands-Fonds it yesterday cried these tragic disappearances. Elsewhere, les Abymes and Morne-to-l'Eau, of Guadeloupian washed their houses defiled by mudflows.
And already a few votes amounted to hold accountable.
In the fault? We have been sufficiently well informed? Why my neighbor was right to built this wall which prevents water pass?
These questions address to elected officials, State.
The State became aware of the magnitude of the disaster of the Council of Ministers. Marie-Luce Penchard, Delegate Minister for overseas, took the plane yesterday morning and arrived early evening. She participated in a meeting with Eric Jalton emergency work les Abymes, Mayor before to go to the families of the victims.
-Béatrice mourns her husband, Jules Félicianne
Jules Amédée Félicianne (42 years) is not returned to work Tuesday night. His body was found yesterday morning in the ravine of Doubs, of his home.
Béatrice Félicianne found solace with relatives. She learned the death of her husband yesterday morning. (Sylvère Selbonne)Yesterday morning, his house in road pavement to Chazeau / Les Abymes, Béatrice is collapsed. Her husband, Jules Amédée Félicianne (age 42), is one of the five recovered victims drowned in Doubs / Les Abymes.
Béatrice Félicianne stood on the place of research, yesterday morning, when it was announced that a body had to be found in the ravine. With a satchel. When police showed him the bag, she immediately knew it was him. "A Brown Satchel."
Her husband, accountant at Pointe-à-Pitre, had left his work around 17 hours Tuesday. A colleague and his employer, from supporting his wife yesterday explained he was joking before. "He rigolait." He did not know if he could go home. He knew the dangers waiting for him... »
Yesterday, it was his birthday
It is true that Chazeau, water issues, Béatrice know her, like other residents: "Often, Chazeau route is cut off." Where it happened, it rises. But never as much. "At 3 p.m., it always was.
When she saw how the rain fell later in the day Tuesday, Béatrice worried. She tried to join her husband. "I wanted to tell him to keep sleeping with his uncle in Beausoleil." But he did not answer...
Concern grew again when she heard that a 4 x 4 has been swept. She hasn't thought it could be her husband, a Peugeot 206. In the evening, still waiting for her husband, she heard a helicopter. There, she understood that it had happened next door.
His brother visited on-site. "He told me that he has not seen with people waiting on the other side." Apparently, Jules Félicianne tried to return home no matter what. "He parked his car and it is mounted in the pick-up to pass. It has never returned...
Béatrice and Jules Amédée Félicianne were married for four years. Béatrice cries "a nice and very considerate man." He worried lot for me, my well-being. ", It is that yesterday, it was his birthday...-Robert Noyon leaves a wife and two children
The body of Robert Noyon (38 years) was found in mid-morning yesterday, at the bottom of the ravine. The Mornalien was married and father of two teenagers.
At end, Beatrice, a niece by Robert Noyon, alliance has kept hope. Yesterday morning, like many other members of the family, she attended the research. Unfortunately, there was not was miracle.
The body of Robert Noyon was drafted around 10 a.m., at the bottom of the ravine. A tragedy for this family. Before the body of his son, Florentin Noyon holds her head in his hands. Béatrice was in tears. Florita, sister of Robert, burst into tears...
He did not intend to wait
Robert Noyon (38 years) was missing from the previous evening. From her sister, Florita, he had broken down of car. Of keypad, it seems. It would break first, then a second. He would go find what repairs. It is returning that things are complicated.
His brother Rony says that his father was unable to bring Robert until his vehicle. "There was too much water to pass with his car." According to Rony, their father have advised her to wait and get his car the next day. "He did not heard...". "Beatrice says that Robert, welder and mechanic to his account at Jabrun/Morne-to-l'Eau,"would never would leave his car.
He sought a way to move and he met the brothers Jean-Bart, Harry and Vilar. According that included Rony, wife of Vilar was hung-up due to rain of Beausoleil. The two brothers went to recover. "Robert took the opportunity to go with the Jean-Bart." And like them, he took away...
Robert Noyon was married and father of two children, Natacha (16 years) and Anthony (13 years). Relatives say he was "very generous and open. Everyone liked it and appreciated his work. »
Shortly after ten o'clock, aquatic rescuers of the Sdis have ascended on the Bank Robert Noyon body. His family was present. (Sylvère Selbonne)-Never seen in January
This rainy episode is totally atypical, explains Norbert Aouizerats, head of the weather centre.
"At the level of the amount of rain, it is exceptional: it has never occurred a month of January." Never was, in January of such important values, up to 250 litres mar m2 in great funds. However, as regards the time - it's raining since Sunday... - we have already been confronted with similar episodes.
The explanation? On the one hand, we have an anticyclonic area on the North Atlantic and off the coast of the United States, on the other, a low-pressure zone covering all South America and back southward Antilles. We are stuck between the two, with a front which is situated just about us, and which has practically not changed since Sunday. C'est ça is exceptional: rather than move, this front remains practically at the same location. Moreover, storm cells that have occurred have affected an area relatively limited, included an area between Sainte-Rose, Baie-Mahault, Gosier, Sainte-Anne, Saint-François, Le Moule, Morne-to-l'Eau. This is above all the water which was falling on Guadeloupe had fallen on this sector alone. »-Sadness and desolation in the Jean-Bart
The neighbourhood of Boricaud is excitement since the announcement of the death of brothers Jean-Bart, Harry and Vilar that everyone called Chaben. His wife née Huguette Guicheron, sister of Michel and Harry Guicheron former cycling champion mouliens of the 1970s, is also among the victims. Three members of this family were taken by Division of Doubs, waters Tuesday night while trying to cross a stretch of road flooded by the waters.
Wednesday morning, the early hours, the homes of victims were already full of world, parents and relatives and friends, as is customary in the campaigns. Everyone wanted to be useful, do something, find lyrics for comfort. "I have trouble believing that Uncle Harry I thought unconquerable is dead!" sighs a nephew of Harry Jean-Bart. Difficult to accept the disappearance of good living.
Remy Jean-Bart has trouble accepting this sad fate for her two brothers. It is now the only one of six brothers to be still alive. The siblings had 14 children. He l strives to not sink into sadness. Must support 8 sisters and her many nieces and nephews. Just 18 months ago disappeared accidentally Sidonius, another brother. The last three brothers lived in houses nearby, separated from a small strip of grass, but in Harry everyone has met. Chaben and his wife House is closed because their two children, a boy and a girl living in the hexagon. "It is Remy, that returned the difficult task of announcing the news to her niece by phone. "I called it in 6 hours." "It was difficult, but I took my courage in both hands."
Groceries on the other side, Boricaud gathering place is also packed world. A majority of men sitting on the veranda is silent. Difficult for them to believe that this good living, to voice Harry, serious, professional Tiler and big cock fighting fan either party so. "Him if had fear of water, to refuse to swim in the sea." It is difficult to believe that he died drowned. "There is no exception his destiny", coward, a friend of the family. How can we understand that Chaben, this welder by profession, who loved to give jokes died under these conditions? It still wondering. Harry children, seven in total, including Joël, champion of motocross, trying to stay fit, but are highly affected. Talking about preparing the Vigil, a great evening. It was the desire to Harry.-Grivy ' close to family
Singer "Grivy la" was very early from the Jean-Bart family is close. At the age of 15, I started working as a Tiler with Harry." Even the last time, he was often in my bar. It was like a big brother to me. When I was a foolish, he chided me as a father. When we work at la Désirade, he refused to take a bath of sea, so he feared water. And it is water that killed him. It's hard for me. I came to support the family, especially Remy who played saxophone on two of my albums, "Bel and good" and "Ti re la".FIVE BODY RECOVERED IN A RAVINE
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Aquatic rescuers of the Sdis have searched the bed of the ravine until the discovery of the body of the fifth and final missing person. (Sylvère Selbonne)
Passengers in a 4 x 4 pickup swept by waters Tuesday night were found dead drowned in a ravine in Doubs / Les Abymes. They attempted to cross a Ford...
Yesterday morning, it is the effervescence in Doubs / Les Abymes. Four bodies were already out of the water and research continues to find a missing fifth person.
The crowd press on the place of the tragedy. Of riparian, onlookers, but relatives and relatives of the victims also. The prefect Jean Fabre, was also come to realize on the spot.
Divisional Commissioner Frédéric Peyran (1) and the Director of the departmental Service fire and rescue (Sdis), colonel Gilles Bazir him show the car. A 4 x 4 pickup grey metallic partly immersed in the middle of the ravine.
Three body in were extracted during the night, two brothers, Harry and Vilar Jean-Bart, and the wife, Huguette. Inhabitants of Borricaud (see page 2). From the fire, the doors were not locked, but with the strength of the current occupants were likely unable to open and found themselves trapped...
A fourth body was found more downstream from the shore, early in the morning, that of Jules Amédée Félicianne (age 42), who lived at Chazeau. His wife is on the premises, in tears. Inconsolable.
At the bottom of the ravine
In the ravine, research continues. Aquatic rescuers of the Sdis searched tirelessly the bed of the stream, while firefighters roam the shores.
In the crowd, the family of the last disappeared, Robert Noyon (38 years, domiciled in Jabrun/Morne-to-l'Eau), is in anguish. Florita, sister of Robert, seeks his father, Florentin. It's there somewhere... "Dad will not go away until his son will not found."
A few minutes later, the clamour announces the bad news: "found!" The crowd Street on shore, behind the houses. The body lies on the water, covered with oilcloth, given by a neighbor to protect it from prying eyes.
While the police keep onlookers remotely, Florita, Florentin father and other relatives surrounded, reddened eyes. Béatrice, niece by the deceased, alliance accuses the blow. She had kept the hope that it could be found living. "It was someone from fort, he was doing sports everyday...". ".
Lieutenant Fritz Brosseau says that the fifth victim's body was found a little more upstream than discovered earlier in the morning. "Aquatic rescuers found him at the bottom of the River, in approximately 2 meters of water, 600 metres approximately downstream of the place where the 4 x 4 has been away."
The body was recovered at the bottom of the ravine. (Sylvère Selbonne)Hundreds of people attended search, yesterday morning, Doubs. (Sylvère Selbonne)Thirty police intervention départementale company was mobilized. (Sylvère Selbonne)(1) The Divisional Commissioner Frédéric Peyran is the new Director of public safety.
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Alert to 19 h 15, Tuesday
Are residents who gave warning Tuesday night, seeing a vehicle borne Doubs waters / Les Abymes. Relief have been alerted about 7: 15 p.m. and firefighters were dispatched a reconnaissance team.
Research
It was first to locate the vehicle swept away by the waves. The lack of visibility and importance of flood made difficult research. 4 X 4 pickup truck finally was spotted by the air force helicopter. Three bodies were discovered inside, to 1 hour. Interrupted around 3 p.m., research resumed around 6: 30 p.m. yesterday. They have led to the discovery of two new bodies, more downstream, in the ravine.
Means incurred
A large number of police were deployed in Doubs yesterday morning. National, whose thirty départementale intervention company (ILC) officials and municipal police officers. 20 Firefighters were involved in research, as well as aquatic lifeguard (Sav). Two helicopters have helped research, the army air and Sécurité civile.
An investigation
A research of the causes of death investigation, entrusted to the departmental security. The first elements, it would appear that three people were in the cockpit and at least another in the dumpster of the pickup, rear.-Reaction: "national solidarity" with Guadeloupe
President Nicolas Sarkozy said Wednesday at the Council of Ministers "national solidarity" to Guadeloupe, spokesman of the Government, François Baroin has reported. The head of State "reaffirmed national solidarity to the families who are bereaved and for Guadeloupe and Guadeloupian which are currently in difficulty", said Mr. Baroin at the end of the Council.
"He asked the Minister in charge of the overseas to anticipate his departure", while he will visit itself in the West Indies at the end of the week.
Marie-Luce Penchard announced left for Guadeloupe as early as Wednesday afternoon to express "support for severely tested population", "to realize the damage caused and evaluate additional means should be deployed if necessary".-3 QUESTIONS to COLONEL GILLES BAZIR, Director, departmental fire and rescue SERVICE: "witnesses observed a vehicle switch road."
Alerted you and how have you spotted the vehicle?
We intervened to call witnesses who saw a vehicle switch road to the ravine with several people on board. After a first recognition, it has not seen much. The vehicle was covered by water. Could locate through the competition of the helicopter.
How the research took place?
Have been intervening divers to do recognition within the vehicle and extract, unfortunately, the bodies of three victims to 1 hour. There, it was decided to stop research, because it was rather complicated. Has twice them this morning and found a fourth victim somewhat washed away by the current (Editor's note, a fifth victim is rescued a little later in the morning).
Was an idea of what is past?
People tried to cross a Ford with a river flowing quite strongly, thinking that they might cross. Water on body force took the vehicle. Apparently, someone was walking next to the vehicle to guide, according to testimony. This person would have washed first.- 15
Between Tuesday night and yesterday morning, firefighters performed fifteen interventions linked to flooding, including 3 implemented safety of animals (cattle, Morne-à - water and mold.) They have helped 6 persons to exit their vehicle and 4 blocked their homes and school at Sainte-Rose, les Abymes and Morne-to-l'Eau. They performed several rescues, including that of two cyclists at Vieux-Bourg/Les Abymes (see page 4). All these operations have mobilized nearly 70 firefighters for some thirty hours.
The prefect Jean Fabre visited the scene drama, accompanied by Frédéric Peyran Divisional Commissioner and the Director of the Sdis, colonel Gilles Bazir.[b]
ROBERT and GILLES, stories of two mightB.C. / V.D. / S.B. France-Antilles Guadeloupe 06.01.2011
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.a ... 107876.php His car was found in the ravine. Robert Mathias and Gilles Zelbin are the might. They were both successful out of their cars washed away by water. Lionel and Christelle tell their real obstacle course to return home, Tuesday night.
-"I hung from a tree and the firemen rescued me."
Robert Mathias was able to get out of his car washed by the waters in Doubs / Les Abymes. He was aware of having very lucky to be alive.
"I almost died...". "Robert Mathias, 36 years, saw death up close, Tuesday evening, les Abymes. His car was swept away by the water and had emerged miraculously.
"I live in Moreau, le Gosier." I got to work. "It was about 19heures and he was alone in his car. He wanted to go through Chazeau. But while he was crossing a small bridge, his car was swept away by water. Not far from the place where five people were killed.
Robert Mathias recognizes, he was very frightened and he panicked. "There are water returning in the car and a lot of power." Water exceeded even the car. I couldn't open the door. »
Robert Mathias does not know how he did out of his vehicle. "Something that I am kind." I've pushed very, very... "It finally was able to go out and swim to a tree. "I myself am hanging in the tree."
"I thought that he killed him also.
He thinks that he remained close to an hour before arrival relief. "Firefighters came with a rope." I was exhausted and I was scared to descend into the water and whooshing. I didn't force me to tie. I held the rope and they saved me. »
On his release from the hospital yesterday morning, Robert Mathias equals Doubs / Les Abymes. To see where his car and retrieve its affairs. This is where he heard that firefighters were looking bodies.
His mother, Marguerite Mathias, and his aunt, Jacqueline Kancel, accompanied him. "It's a miraculé," they repeat. Marguerite is relieved. It well thought he lost his son.
Not seeing the return Tuesday evening, it is not too worried. She thought that he had stopped at Morne-to-l'Eau. But when the phone rang around 4 a.m., she panicked. "I heard that he had been killed." I thought that he was dead he also... "Its a nice interlocutor saying do not panic, he is hospitalized and saved, it is only when she was able to talk to her that she was completely reassured. »
Robert is aware of having very lucky to be alive. His mother believed that "if he didn't, he believes today." It has a thought for the families of the victims: "people who died, we know also...". »
Robert Mathias car was swept away by water, not far from the place where five people drowned. (Sylvère Selbonne)-"I managed to escape through the glass while the car was below 2 m of water.
Gilles Zelbin is line Air Antilles express driver. Tuesday, it was is improvised swimmer, in eradicating his car. The latter, after having swept away by the current, Golden Pointe / Les Abymes, dropped to the bottom of a ravine.
Gilles Zelbin (right) alongside a waterfront of Golden Peak, which did not hesitate to mobilise a crane truck to get the car of the ravine. (B.C)Gilles Zelbin knows that too: "I am part of a few might flood." Last night (Tuesday evening, Editor's note), I had to be protected by the Almighty. "Naked torso and in short despite a persistent thin rain, this airline pilot attended in the afternoon of yesterday in the operations for his Peugeot 307, stuck under a bridge, rue Camille Loyson, Pointe-d'Or/Les Abymes.
"For most large weatherproof, water continuously climbing this ravine up to submerge the road." This is a classic. "Since September, it has not yet fully dried it", gave his side a waterfront come lend a hand to neighbors, to extract the faster car. Here again, solidarity turned into full throttle. A truck with plateau has even dégoté to do this.
"It was dark: never I I am doubted cross a ravine".
The misadventure lived Tuesday evening this pilot saved the waves, is comparable to that of thousands of motorists, "taken courses by the sudden rise of waters." Adrenaline and more. "Me too, I'd just leave my work at Air Antilles Express." It was 9: 45 pm. I wanted to join my home in Saint-François. "Faced with the problem of caps and deletions roads, Gilles Zelbin has done as much. And is never doubted to implement risk. Logically, we are in the dry season." A rising waters like this has surprised everyone. "Never I had seen it", he eloquently yesterday. Sincere. His search for secondary axes eventually lead up until rue Camille-Loyson. "A sector that I didn't." That is, suddenly his car has become caught in current, while it agreed on a bridge.
"It was dark, it was raining: never I am doubted me cross a ravine.". The suite? A few moments of anxiety: "I nothing could do." My vehicle has resulted in the ravine and quickly found himself overwhelmed. I was still on board. I then tried to maintain my composure: after undoing my belt, I tried to open the door. But there were too many current... "Salvation, Gilles Zelbin it has finally had its battery:"There was enough load to allow me to lower my electric glass." Thanks to it, I have come to out me of the cabin. There, I should still fight against the current to achieve reach a shore. Fortunately, a lady went by car, and drove me home. »
If this line driver today thanked residents of Pointe-d'Or "who expressed concern" by discovering my car under the bridge in the early morning, and salutes the courage of the firefighters who "have undertaken certificates to see if I had not remained stuck behind the wheel", it means now "relax a little." It does not preclude a call: "every parent must register their children for swimming lessons." Learn to swim and to understand the water. "It can always be used" Gilles Zelbin is living proof!