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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8141 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:09 pm

wall_cloud wrote:
downsouthman1 wrote:http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=DYX&lat=32.47901917&lon=-99.70001984&label=Abilene,+TX&type=N0R&zoommode=pan&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&prevzoom=zoom&num=6&delay=15&scale=1&showlabels=1&smooth=0&noclutter=0&showstorms=0&rainsnow=1&lightning=0

Does any1 else see 2 waves passing here? I'm assuming the 1st is the actual cold front. The next is the actual cold air. Any1 concur?

Supported by this: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0


the front is quite evident. where is the second?

Look in Palo Pinto County.

Nope, nevermind. I see what that is now.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8142 Postby Tejas89 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:11 pm

Models trending the precip north, and now FW with concerns on moisture.

I'm not going to be the first to throw out the B word.... but it's awfully late in the game for these trends to be unfounded.
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#8143 Postby wall_cloud » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:12 pm

I think that is just some elevated echo associated with the moisture return.
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#8144 Postby jerryh421 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:13 pm

Wednesday: Rain before 3pm, then rain or freezing rain likely. Temperature falling to around 30 by 3pm. Wind chill values between 15 and 25. Breezy, with a north wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to between 15 and 20 mph. Winds could gust as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Little or no ice accumulation expected.

finally put it in our forecast!
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#8145 Postby jerryh421 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:14 pm

And we are under a winter weather advisory!
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8146 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:14 pm

Tejas89 wrote:Models trending the precip north, and now FW with concerns on moisture.

I'm not going to be the first to throw out the B word.... but it's awfully late in the game for these trends to be unfounded.


The models have always trended the precip north. They are not seeing how the surface low will be affected by the GoMex.
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#8147 Postby Parker_County1 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:15 pm

The front is not making much eastward progress. Right now the front is roughly along a line from Baird-Woodson-Olney-Windthorst-Ringgold. Moving SE at perhaps 15 miles/hour. At this speed, it would be daylight tomorrow morning before it got to the metroplex but I expect it might pick up speed during the night.
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#8148 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:18 pm

jerryh421 wrote:And we are under a winter weather advisory!



URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
1005 PM CST TUE FEB 8 2011

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM TO 5 PM
WEDNESDAY...

.STRONG COLD FRONT WILL BRING A CHANCE OF LIGHT FREEZING RAIN AND
SLEET.

TXZ178-179-199-091215-
/O.EXA.KHGX.WW.Y.0001.110209T1600Z-110209T2300Z/
MONTGOMERY-POLK-SAN JACINTO-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...COLDSPRING...CONROE...CORRIGAN...
LIVINGSTON...ONALASKA...SHEPHERD...THE WOODLANDS...WILLIS
1005 PM CST TUE FEB 8 2011

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM TO 5 PM CST
WEDNESDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HOUSTON/GALVESTON HAS ISSUED A
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THE POTENTIAL OF FREEZING RAIN...WHICH
IS IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM TO 5 PM CST WEDNESDAY.

AN ARCTIC FRONT WILL BE MOVING INTO THE REGION WEDNESDAY MORNING.
EXPECT RAINFALL AHEAD OF THE FRONT. AS TEMPERATURES FALL BELOW
FREEZING IN THE EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS...ANY LINGERING
PRECIPITATION COULD FREEZE AS IT CONTACTS THE SURFACE. THIS
PRECIPITATION SHOULD TAPER OFF DURING THE MID AFTERNOON HOURS AS
DRIER AIR MOVE IN ALOFT. EVEN THOUGH THE RAIN WILL BE
ENDING...STANDING PUDDLES WILL STILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO
FREEZE...MAINLY ON ELEVATED ROADWAYS AND BRIDGES. MOTORISTS SHOULD
USE CAUTION IF DRIVING IN THE AFTERNOON HOURS...ESPECIALLY IN
NORTH AND NORTHWEST PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

ICE ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE LIGHT. THIS UPCOMING WEATHER
EVENT WILL BE MONITORED VERY CLOSELY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES IN THE ADVISORY AREA MAY BECOME COVERED
WITH A THIN LAYER OF PATCHY ICE MAKING DRIVING HAZARDOUS.
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#8149 Postby wall_cloud » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:20 pm

Parker_County1 wrote:The front is not making much eastward progress. Right now the front is roughly along a line from Baird-Woodson-Olney-Windthorst-Ringgold. Moving SE at perhaps 15 miles/hour. At this speed, it would be daylight tomorrow morning before it got to the metroplex but I expect it might pick up speed during the night.


it hasn't moved very far east all day. It arrived in Midland before Childress. Once the upper low ejects into the plains and the surface cyclone follows, the front will blast south and east.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8150 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:21 pm

Echoes of the ever consistent UKMET sounds in the distance! Listen closely :wink:

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#8151 Postby kb75007 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:22 pm

How come the fox 4 meteorologist says 2-3 inches for DFW and were under a winter storm warning? That doesn't really make since because that's not much snow?
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#8152 Postby pwrdog » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:23 pm

Parker_County1 wrote:The front is not making much eastward progress. Right now the front is roughly along a line from Baird-Woodson-Olney-Windthorst-Ringgold. Moving SE at perhaps 15 miles/hour. At this speed, it would be daylight tomorrow morning before it got to the metroplex but I expect it might pick up speed during the night.

That is faster than it was moving.... It was crawling at 8-10 mph east earlier..
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#8153 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:24 pm

kb75007 wrote:How come the fox 4 meteorologist says 2-3 inches for DFW and were under a winter storm warning? That doesn't really make since because that's not much snow?

The ULL is too far north & the SL is struggling to develop precip.
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#8154 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:24 pm

kb75007 wrote:How come the fox 4 meteorologist says 2-3 inches for DFW and were under a winter storm warning? That doesn't really make since because that's not much snow?



depends on what station you watch, channel 8's Pete Delkus is talking now and still preaching the 2-4", 3-5" range for metro area and northward.
There is pleanty of moisture to work with once it all comes together, just think last Friday.... :ggreen:
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#8155 Postby gboudx » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:24 pm

kb75007 wrote:How come the fox 4 meteorologist says 2-3 inches for DFW and were under a winter storm warning? That doesn't really make since because that's not much snow?


Because of the ice and sleet expected as well it appears.

A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW...
SLEET...AND ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL
VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.
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#8156 Postby wall_cloud » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:29 pm

kb75007 wrote:How come the fox 4 meteorologist says 2-3 inches for DFW and were under a winter storm warning? That doesn't really make since because that's not much snow?


because "impact" can trump the base criteria for a winter storm warning. Two inches of snow and 30 mph winds has more impact than 4 inches of snow with light winds. Wind driven snow can bring any location to a stand still and is far more dangerous to travelers. thus...a warning instead of advisory.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8157 Postby Texas2Florida » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:30 pm

downsouthman1 wrote:
Tejas89 wrote:Models trending the precip north, and now FW with concerns on moisture.

I'm not going to be the first to throw out the B word.... but it's awfully late in the game for these trends to be unfounded.


The models have always trended the precip north. They are not seeing how the surface low will be affected by the GoMex.


Would that failure to mesh the GoMex with the Low make it a longer event than they are saying.. "ending by noon" ?
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#8158 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:39 pm

A Texas semi driver up here during a zephyr (tongue in cheek) prairie snowfall:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zO4kWVquZU[/youtube] His driving speed was 30 mph and he was praying for a chance to get off the road.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8159 Postby Snowman67 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:46 pm

Winter weather advisories keep creeping further SE. Seems as if the cold front may drop temps quicker than originally expected.
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#8160 Postby DonWrk » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:46 pm

There's gotta be like 6-8 inches in Amarillo right now.
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