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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4981 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:18 pm

bamajammer4eva wrote:From Joe Bastardi Twitter:

BigJoeBastardiJoe Bastardi

Emily starting to intensify. pressure is falling in storm.. awaiting next recon

21 minutes ago


he is consistently optimistic in terms of developement of tropical systems
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#4982 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:20 pm

Wow i really hope future systems dont struggle as much as this one. At first we can say it was rather interesting but now it just irritates you and gives you a head ache.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4983 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:20 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
bamajammer4eva wrote:From Joe Bastardi Twitter:

BigJoeBastardiJoe Bastardi

Emily starting to intensify. pressure is falling in storm.. awaiting next recon

21 minutes ago


he is consistently optimistic in terms of developement of tropical systems


"Optimistic" is an understatement...sheesh
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4984 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:21 pm

Good question sunny?
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4985 Postby Airboy » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:23 pm

Looking at the last couple of visible sat pictures i get the impression that the rotation is getting a bit better (improved W winds) on the south part of the storm.
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#4986 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:23 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:last two fixes show 265 or so motion ..


You can't count that first fix as the plane clearly missed the center.


but its extrapolated.. VDM came out for it.


Yeah, but quite clearly that weren't the center, you can tell just by looking at the wind direction reported at the time and the fact pressure was higher then the *true* second pass...

I would not be surprised if Emily becomes a hurricane as its being swept out to sea, should be good forcing and struggling systems tend to find it easy getting thier act on when they go NE I've found.
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#4987 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:24 pm

Aric, how has the NAM's setup translated to other models of the same run so far? Has the NAM been a good preview so far?
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4988 Postby maxx9512 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:25 pm

Local TV met just mentioned Fl. not out of the woods and tonights models might show a shift back
to the west. Seeing what has gone on today this COULD be correct. Is he right or will the models stick to their
eastward trend? I don't see how they can, but I'm not a pro. I guess it's just a wait and see.
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#4989 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:25 pm

Doesn't give confidence when the NAM takes this pretty much NW into W.PR...which is pretty unlikely at this stage!
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#4990 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:26 pm

well theya re not going to released VDM's if they were not sure.. extrapolated pressure and center is done quite often.
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#4991 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:26 pm

HurricaneWarning92 wrote:Wow i really hope future systems dont struggle as much as this one. At first we can say it was rather interesting but now it just irritates you and gives you a head ache.


would you rather have clean systems heading towards west broward?
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#4992 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:27 pm

KWT wrote:Doesn't give confidence when the NAM takes this pretty much NW into W.PR...which is pretty unlikely at this stage!


but again this run the ridging has increased off the SE coast.

check 54 hours out... see the ridging .. quite pronounced.. dont care what NAM does with the storm.. look at the synoptics..


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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4993 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:27 pm

Let's face it, the conditions out in the Atlantic/Carib are just horrible for anything to get going at this time. So it's the same old story.
I think in the next 2 to 3 weeks the tropics will get rockin as the conditions vastly improve....
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4994 Postby Cainer » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:27 pm

StormClouds63 wrote:In the event Emily does not attain hurricane status, that would make 5/5 named systems to start the season ... all w/o reaching hurricane strength. Does anyone know if that has happened before to start an Atlantic tropical season? Just wondering.


Happened in 2002 - first 6 named storms failed to become hurricanes.
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#4995 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:28 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:well theya re not going to released VDM's if they were not sure.. extrapolated pressure and center is done quite often.


Well fair enough but I think as Wxman57 said the center was not where the VDM message was, you can tell by the wind motion and the pressure...
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#4996 Postby mf_dolphin » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:29 pm

If it does here's a good pretty topo map of Hispaniola.

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Fairly high mountains to welcome her on the current NHC track
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4997 Postby Kory » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:29 pm

Well I am new to the forum here. After looking at hurricane hunters and at satelitte, it looks like it maybe starting to move slightly north of west. Also, I think the East Coast of Florida all the way to North Carolina needs to watch this, but don't expect a big swing with the track.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Models

#4998 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:30 pm

Um, is that 54 hour image of the NAM showing two storms???

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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4999 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:30 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Let's face it, the conditions out in the Atlantic/Carib are just horrible for anything to get going at this time. So it's the same old story.
I think in the next 2 to 3 weeks the tropics will get rockin as the conditions vastly improve....


Please know what you are talking about before you post. What are the "horrible" conditions in the Caribbean right now. Conditions are actually really good and that is why this could be a hurricane. The issue has to do with the inner dynamics within the storm not allowing a solid center.
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#5000 Postby Gustywind » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:30 pm

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
02/1745 UTC 15.4N 64.2W T3.0/3.0 EMILY
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